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Michael Russo
mmm mmm prog
Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
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| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
yes i deleted it because people where not understanding the point of it...and i felt it would be easier to delete it then to deal with moronic statements from people who dont even understand the point that was trying to be made....
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Some people may have made stupid comments but not everyone was. I read the whole thing, I understood the arguments, and I responded with my (long) opinion. You shouldn't have just deleted the whole thing...
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 Mar-24-2002 03:31 
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Ste
Planet Zogg Addict
Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Outer Dementia
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Mar-25-2002 20:01 
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Lazgti
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Behind the wheel with the tach at 7K
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Tiesto, I wasn't flaming you man...I wasn't even directing the post at you dude...all I was saying is that in fact alot of bitches out there are being total sluts about things and basically looking at abortion as a way to have their cake and eat it too...the same applies to the fahkers banging these girls. I think its very very sad to see couples engaging in unprotected sex or whatever and not considering that the act results in procreation. A kid is likely if the chick is ovulating. It bugs me that people are like "Well I don't like to use condoms" or whatever...they are practically handed out to people here in Canada...anybody can go to a clinic and get free condoms, yet its still too much of a pain in the ass and these idiots start arguing about their rights...fahking selfish if you ask me. Women being irresponsible and then getting pregnant then tossing aside the child's right to live because she made a mistake...I say learn from mistakes.
And I just agreed that pro-life should apply to other creatures as well...I am not in agreement with abuse or useless destruction of animals.
Funny that you made the point about the animals in Noah's Ark...what purpose was served by saving these creatures, so that when the rains ended, they would procreate and Noah and his descendents could have dominion over them...ie, live by having food and beasts to help them farm.
About the meat eating thing...I said arguably it is necessary to eat meat. Technically one can survive by eating only vegatarian foods. Arguably is the key word. I am partially vegetarian...its a long story but most of the time I do not eat meat or dairy products. However, not everybody can or should do it. Humans are naturally carnivores...eating vegetables and vegetable proteins alone is not enough for many people to obtain all the necessary nutrients and amino acids. But in any case, the food chain is real and the fact that humans are at the top. Regardless of how they got there...some argue because of God's will to make man superior to all living things or because of human intelligence and ability to adapt to situations and control the environment he lives in. Whatever, we still aren't talking about the same things...
Pro-lifers are referring to the saving of fetuses as they are scientifically referred to (they are nonetheless human life) from those that choose to abort a pregnancy for whatever reason. That same rationalle you are right should apply to life in general. However eating subordinate creatures is not cruel or morally wrong given its nature. A human is a equal to another human being. For someone to say that they should be allowed to abort their child is essentially saying that their life is more important than someone elses. After all its terribly inconvenient to have a kid so just because the baby is carried in the mother's womb she should be able to do as she wishes to her body...that sounds fine if there was nobody else to consider but that is not the case. If someone wants to pierce everypart of their anatomy or get tatoos, or drink til they puke or dose on E or whatever, it is THEIR BODY AND THEY CAN DO AS THEY WILL. But, a pregnant mother saying its her right to abort a child because its in her body is IMO wrong...that kid did not ask to be conceived. It is a well known consequence of sex. If she did not want a kid she should have kept her panties on or got some Trojans and did what she wanted...its not my place to say what a person should or should not do. But its simple, you have sex, you may have a kid. Its well known...this ignorance argument is BS too....kids not only know how children are conceived now but they also know different positions and shit now. I feel like a prude when talking to some of my younger cousins (they are like 13 years old...). They know about sex and what the purpose is...procreation...the pleasure is a by-product or means, not the end in itself. So to say, its my body noone elses I can do whatever I want, is total fahkin BS. It is somebody elses...just because that person does not speak yet, or walk, or live on the outside independently of its mother's womb does not mean that little person has no feeling or soul. Its a person and people forget that....it isn't about a woman's body, its about the destruction of the child being carried in her body as a result of her actions. The woman's rights are not the issue here, its discrimination, the child cannot defend itself or survive without its mother so it is considered inferior...sort of Nazi like...if you want to look at it like that.
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Mar-25-2002 20:23 
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