We should ship some down from the mainland so you folks in Hobart can get a bit of genetic diversity.

oooh! zing!

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Originally posted by Renegade Can anyone come up with good "moo" puns to save me the effort?

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Originally posted by Lilith I've got concerns that it'll be a gateway for things like BSE (Mad cow disease), the disease can cross over from meat to humans in a couple of cases and it's caused by a Prion. These things are nasty and youre not going to knock it out with something as simple as pasturisation or radiation, they are almost impossible to destroy and very hard to detect. Cross species diseases where the host is closer to humans biologically is about my only real concern when theyre going to be used for consumption because it might cause a few more mutant strains of diseases.

We don't really know how exactly mad cow disease functions, and it was just discovered very, very recently.

We don't know how much DNA is necessary, if DNA is even a factor, etc.

I guess simple regulations would solve your concerns though. I think hybrids would be more useful for production purposes (like the person who mentioned goat silk ) than immunological survivability of meat products.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Well yes, but I don't consider them to be just that. Another reaosn why I personally find it disturbing is that I don't believe in screwing around with nature. No, that's not a reference to computer and skyscrapers , but things like GMOs etc. This obviously goes alot further than that.

Just to let you know, our species has a long history (at least as long as recorded history, definitely 12,000 back, and almost certainly longer) of "screwing around with nature".

Give our ancestors more credit; they were creating hybrids and frankensteins of all sorts of things long before we had modern technology.

Plant populations have been mixed and grafted and cultivated and isolated genetically for certain properties for millennia; we've bred entirely new species of bee solely to optimize honey production and collection efficiency.

It's nothing new; we're just taking it to the next level now, because we have the tools and the information to do so.

EDIT: Oops, should have read the next post; Lillith basically already said the exact same thing.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Just to let you know, our species has a long history (at least as long as recorded history, definitely 12,000 back, and almost certainly longer) of "screwing around with nature". Give our ancestors more credit; they were creating hybrids and frankensteins of all sorts of things long before we had modern technology. Plant populations have been mixed and grafted and cultivated and isolated genetically for certain properties for millennia; we've bred entirely new species of bee solely to optimize honey production and collection efficiency. It's nothing new; we're just taking it to the next level now, because we have the tools and the information to do so. EDIT: Oops, should have read the next post; Lillith basically already said the exact same thing.

Doesn't fall under my definition of "screwing with nature." That's not the same as splicing genes.

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I don't think drinking genetically modified milk would raise the risk of Mad Cow. All the cases I've heard about come from tainted meat/tissues. Also, unless the proteins would be denatured by pasteurization and thus the milk could not be pasteurized, it seems to me it would be the same as drinking "normal" store bought milk.

We'd finally have miloko plus (obligatory Clockwork Orange reference).

On a more philosophical/esoteric note...couldn't you argue modern medicine goes "against nature?" I mean, naturally, if you were to get an infection, you'd more than likely die of it. We use antibiotics to interfere with "nature" and give us an advantage against bacteria. Or how about cancer treatments? We use radiation therapy to literally destroy the DNA of cancerous tissue.

Yes, I know that this is different from splicing genes, but I'm just throwing it out there as an example of where going against "nature" is a good thing.

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Originally posted by Renegade Can anyone come up with good "moo" puns to save me the effort?

You know who's going to bring the 10 commandments to these cows?

Mooses!!!
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You know what happens when the cows read the commandments?

A mootiny!!!
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You know what happens when you send an n number of mootinous cows to the space?

You see the moon!!!
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Why don't the cows come back to Earth?

Because they keep mooving!!!
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Why can't they call for help in space either?

Because they're moote!!!
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How do you spot a Mexican Man-cow?

You look for a moostache
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How do you spot a Mexican Man-cow in space?

It's looking for moo-jeres!
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And how do you know they're not enjoying their trip?

They're in a bad moo'd
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Why did they keep being sad?

Because they were emoo
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I suck at making puns

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Originally posted by Lira You know who's going to bring the 10 commandments to these cows? Mooses!!! ================================================================ You know what happens when the cows read the commandments? A mootiny!!! ================================================================ You know what happens when you send an n number of mootinous cows to the space? You see the moon!!! ================================================================ Why don't the cows come back to Earth? Because they keep mooving!!! ================================================================ Why can't they call for help in space either? Because they're moote!!! ================================================================ How do you spot a Mexican Man-cow? You look for a moostache ================================================================ How do you spot a Mexican Man-cow in space? It's looking for moo-jeres! ================================================================ And how do you know they're not enjoying their trip? They're in a bad moo'd ================================================================ Why did they keep being sad? Because they were emoo ================================================================ ... I suck at making puns

Lira that was awful

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

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Originally posted by Lira I suck at making puns

Thanks, that was quite amoosing.

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Moo really think so?