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sterilis
Sunset Ibiza



Registered: May 2005
Location: Belfast/Ibiza/Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
its not beatmatched at all if it starts to "run away" how you put it. practice pratcie practice! get the basics down, listen to your own mixes and compare to others and then keep practicing. its the only way to get better


not necessarialy. most mixes will tend to 'run away' if you put it, however its up to you to continually adjust your pitch to keep it in flow.


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Old Post Dec-30-2006 20:44  Ireland
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DJ Z
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: TX

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
not necessarialy. most mixes will tend to 'run away' if you put it, however its up to you to continually adjust your pitch to keep it in flow.


kane is absolutely right.

...since the beat is always running away (sometimes faster than others), move the pitch slider BEFORE you actually hear it run away - just try it!

as long as you know in which direction it is drifting, you know you have to adjust the slider at some point. as u get better at hearing and reacting to the drift, your goal is 2 stay AHEAD of the drift, of course. you can call this direction of the drift, the "Bias"

my technique: I always Bias the next track to a slightly higher BPM than old...this way there is no doubt about which way i have to correct it's good to start the fade this way, but it doesn't guarantee anything - just an aid.

and guess what, since you can hear the drifting 2 inches from your ear in your headphones, you will notice 2 or 3 beats before the crowd does....that small window is the DJ's advantage. but reacting to a drift in only 2 or 3 beats will take practice.


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Alex
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Montreal

**Disclaimer** I'm no expert, BUT...!!!

First off I need to know what you're mixing with, whether it be TTs CDJs or DJ Software before I can properly analyze your mistakes... However...

The biggest mistake in this mix is the tracks you've decided to mix together, most of them plain don't work with eachother and even if you're a wikkidawesomehax technical DJ you're going to have a hard time mixing tracks that dont work... BREATHE... Together.

The beatmatching needs work, remember to beat count and count the bars also! 1 2 3 4 (2) 2 3 4 (3) 2 3 4 etcetcetc! Phrasing and beatmatching are the first steps to being able to mix two tunes together, also knowing when and where to bring a track in is CRUCIAL, you seem to at times randomly throw in tunes, or randomly TRY to throw in tunes then abort. Of course that being said, you've got the ear, you know when something sounds REALLY REALLY awful and when it needs to be changed or done over.

Also, if beatmatching is whats troubling you, aswell as phrasing, try to slow down the BPM drastically when you're just at home practicing (not recording )... That's what helped me learn beatmatching when I was using my CDJs!!!

Phrasing is easy also, lemme try and show a diagram hehe

| = phrase
l = bar
O = beat

|OOOOlOOOOlOOOOlOOOO|OOOOlOOOOlOOOOlOOOO|

Thats what you should try and picture in your head, two of those lined up perfectly!


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Jarvmeister
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Registered: May 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Z
kane is absolutely right.


No he's not! SPAWN said it wasn't beatmached and the tunes run away because the mix posted here runs away instantly. It's not even nearly beatmatched. Kane said most mixes will run away, this should not be true, you should make the effort to get the beats locked, not rely on corrections. This is the first rule of tight mixing!!!

The better you beatmatch before you start your transition the less you'll have to ride the pitch. If you do it ever so well, then you'll not even need to touch the pitch in most instances. This leaves you free to turn your attention to other areas of the mix.

Jarv

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sterilis
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Registered: May 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
No he's not! SPAWN said it wasn't beatmached and the tunes run away because the mix posted here runs away instantly. It's not even nearly beatmatched. Kane said most mixes will run away, this should not be true, you should make the effort to get the beats locked, not rely on corrections. This is the first rule of tight mixing!!!

The better you beatmatch before you start your transition the less you'll have to ride the pitch. If you do it ever so well, then you'll not even need to touch the pitch in most instances. This leaves you free to turn your attention to other areas of the mix.

Jarv


i didnt listen to the mix. but your wrong in some cases you may not have to adjust the mix but then again this usually only happens in cases where your mixes are quite quick. the longer your mixing the more likely you will have to adjust the pitch. if it was just a matter of catching the beat and leaving it jesus we would all be superstar djs after a month.


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Allayla
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: AZ

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
No he's not! SPAWN said it wasn't beatmached and the tunes run away because the mix posted here runs away instantly. It's not even nearly beatmatched. Kane said most mixes will run away, this should not be true, you should make the effort to get the beats locked, not rely on corrections. This is the first rule of tight mixing!!!

The better you beatmatch before you start your transition the less you'll have to ride the pitch. If you do it ever so well, then you'll not even need to touch the pitch in most instances. This leaves you free to turn your attention to other areas of the mix.

Jarv

Your 100% right, i hate riding the pitch so i take a good couple minutes to beatmatch as tight as the two songs allow.

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