i wasn't being bitter about the success of armin show, i'm happy for twisted and i'm glad they bring big name DJs to the city, exposing the top 40 crowd to trance making trance more popular and hopefully more accepted

but those events are just not for me anymore because top 40 crowd is exactly why i tend to stay away from those parties

the way i see it, for angelo and people who agree with him, it's not all about the DJ, it's also about other people who are there with you that make it a memorable night

Everyone does go to show for different reasons. As the picture may have pointed out, price, venue, DJ and sound doesn't matter if all you are looking for is to grope/ogle chicks/guys or to get plastered drunk or even just to start a fight.

But if you are a fan of a certain genre of music be it trance, techno, house, hip hop, you should always at least strive for best bang for your buck and that usually starts with supporting promoters who give a damn and have a passion for the scene and music.

That's why you're tranceaddicts, right?

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Originally posted by apri_peel i wasn't being bitter about the success of armin show, i'm happy for twisted and i'm glad they bring big name DJs to the city, exposing the top 40 crowd to trance making trance more popular and hopefully more accepted but those events are just not for me anymore because top 40 crowd is exactly why i tend to stay away from those parties the way i see it, for angelo and people who agree with him, it's not all about the DJ, it's also about other people who are there with you that make it a memorable night

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this, but I think its unfair to just label a group of people as top 40 and then go on to say they are the reason you don't attend the shows anymore. They were there for trance music and to me they are the trance crowd.

I club regularly in the top 40/hip hop scene and yes, there are many idiots at those parties, but there are definitely many resepectful top 40 clubbers too.

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Originally posted by meridian82 I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this, but I think its unfair to just label a group of people as top 40 and then go on to say they are the reason you don't attend the shows anymore. They were there for trance music and to me they are the trance crowd. I club regularly in the top 40/hip hop scene and yes, there are many idiots at those parties, but there are definitely many resepectful top 40 clubbers too.

hardly any


The only reason I ever go out to a hip hop/top 40 night is to pick up girls and even that is retardedly easy at nights like that.


Vibe is shit, music is shit, crowd is shit

Only good thing about top 40 night is the easy girls

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Armin has always been one of my favorites and I really enjoyed myself at the show. Good times! The company was great, the crowd was not too bad except for the Avril wanna be gals up front...icky!

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Originally posted by meridian82 I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this, but I think its unfair to just label a group of people as top 40 and then go on to say they are the reason you don't attend the shows anymore. They were there for trance music and to me they are the trance crowd. I club regularly in the top 40/hip hop scene and yes, there are many idiots at those parties, but there are definitely many resepectful top 40 clubbers too.

no, those people are not the trance crowd because they don't go to any other trance events. if it's not tiesto, armin, ferry or pvd, they dont know it and wouldnt bother attending

those people's regular club nights include top 40 club nights

those people are not at armin for trance music, it's way way down on their list of reasons to attend such an event

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Originally posted by apri_peel no, those people are not the trance crowd because they don't go to any other trance events. if it's not tiesto, armin, ferry or pvd, they dont know it and wouldnt bother attending those people's regular club nights include top 40 club nights those people are not at armin for trance music, it's way way down on their list of reasons to attend such an event

That's absurd. Is there any rationale to this at all or is this just your personal views and assumptions? This is like saying I'm not a fan of band music because I only attend the Chilli's concert or Cold Play's concert. Just because you assumed that these people club reguarly at top 40 nights doesn't make them any less of a trance fanatic if they listen to trance music on their own time and happen to choose those big Dj's as their favorite artists. That is how it all starts anyway for most people most of the time.

I was at Armin and as far as I can remember, the crowd at Plush was definitely into the music as much as any other trance event I have attended and I have attended many, from nights as packed as Armin and from nights as dead as GTR/Pulser @ Plush.

People club to have fun. Not everyone is that anal about the music. For most people, they just want to party where their friends are. Getting the best bang for the buck is good. I'm all for money savings, but what good is it if none of your friends are there?

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Originally posted by meridian82 People club to have fun. Not everyone is that anal about the music. For most people, they just want to party where their friends are. Getting the best bang for the buck is good. I'm all for money savings, but what good is it if none of your friends are there?

and a lot of times it may be only one person in the group who knows who armin is and the rest are there just cause

i've been to a lot of trance events in vancouver too, i have seen the people who go to the big events and to the small, i've talked to them, i've been to top40 nights too and i've also seen the kind of people go there. most importantly, i've seen how the trance scene has changed over the years. to be a real trance fan you'd need to know what trance and not techno is, who the artists are and regularly listen to the music. i'm not trying to be an elitist, but if the people who come see armin refer to his music as techno, im sorry, even if they're having the time of their life at the party because they popped so much E, they are still not a trance fan.

Apri, you're such an elitist. You do Ishkur proud!

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Originally posted by Sykonee Apri, you're such an elitist. You do Ishkur proud!

i ishkur!