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Mainstream hiphop has gone to hell. But so has some mainstream techno.
Underground techno is the best, but all people see is the mainstream. That is why alot of people just say trance sucks. Cus they think it's the same as everything else.
If ya'll would listen to UNDERGROUND hiphop (Copywrite, Chino XL, Slug, Eyedea, etc...) then you would know that there are still innovators in the genre. Not everyone is a Nelly (the devil incarnate) or Snoop Dogg (smoked too much to rap). There are alot of very talented people out there that are worth looking into.
Sorry for the rant, guys, but I've been an avid underground hiphop head for years before I got into trance music. I just love all music, and hate to see people trash other's work because it's not to their personal taste. 
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