Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Why I want to learn about music
Pages (2): « 1 [2]   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.

I like trying to do that, too. It takes the emphasis off of "sound design" and puts it back on the arrangement and melody.

Old Post Jan-02-2007 11:14  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for MrJiveBoJingles Click here to Send MrJiveBoJingles a Private Message Add MrJiveBoJingles to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
B_man
public class Music(){...}



Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Red Wing, United States (a deep pit... very deep)

I used to play the saxophone, and was very skilled (years ago). However, being forced to move AGAIN left me depressed, without my musical "mentor", a lack of instructurs in general, and with new things in life to deal with. Since I moved away from Colorado I never played saxophone again and I regret that -- I actually feel very stupid (especially since I no longer have it).

I tried to teach myself piano, but am only half-successful. If I wasn't taking a whopping 18 credits next semester, I'd be taking piano lessons at my current college.

I realize that the saxophone is not a "trance" instrument... but like MrJiveBoJingles said, I like other forms of music too. However, the piano... (cough)...


___________________
...On college-driven hiatus...

Old Post Jan-02-2007 11:14  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for B_man Click here to Send B_man a Private Message Add B_man to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
It takes the emphasis off of "sound design" and puts it back on the arrangement and melody.

Interesting statement and that has a lot to do with the "rant" I had planned for earlier. It's not so much of a rant mind you, in that it's not angry or targeted at anyone, just more of an essay. And being an essay, I think it's simply too long-winded to post wholesale, nobody will read past the first paragraph or two.

So I'm going to give the super-condensed version here:

I think it's completely fine if you consider yourself a "sound designer" or a "sound engineer", as long as you understand that as a professional or aspiring professional, the success of your trade depends upon certain principles of good design, those being:

a) Knowing the theory behind your trade and understanding the role of context;
b) Knowing the field itself - i.e. common practices, important developments, useful techniques, etc., both historical and current;
c) Knowing the constraints and trade-offs inherent in your profession and your designs, and knowing why those constraints exist and how they can be worked around (if at all).

These are accepted, proven principles in any design or engineering field and no honest person would call him/herself a professional without at least some level of adherence to them. As an electronic music producer, your craft actually spans two fields: traditional composition and audio technology. That means in order to be a good music designer, you have to know both sides:

a) The theory - both music theory and sound theory.
b) The field - musical composers and their work, as well as current producers and their techniques. This knowledge can't be limited to one genre or one decade to qualify as in-depth.
c) The art - generally that's playing an instrument because it teaches you what sounds natural based on a real human's limitations. Perhaps you don't actually have to play an instrument, but you should at least have a solid grasp of what the instruments are (both modern and "classical"), what they sound like played by a human, what their pitch registers are, etc. As a bare minimum this means listening to many different genres of music from many different types of instrumentalists or vocalists.

So, are you a designer or a musician? Doesn't matter, either way you have a responsibility to yourself to learn about music in much greater depth than one acquires by hoarding EDM tracks on one's hard drive and going out to the clubs. That may make you an expert on EDM subculture but it doesn't make you a designer.


___________________
My party schedule:
2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here

Old Post Jan-03-2007 01:51  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for DigiNut Click here to Send DigiNut a Private Message Add DigiNut to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
asfdz
Guest



Registered: Not Yet
Location:

That is great that you have such an appreciation for music that you want to take the time to learn an instrument and also theory. I feel that is very important and these programs today are allowing everyone to produce quite easily. Of course you need to know the basics of which notes and chords go together, but I feel there is quite a difference between pressing down the keys of a piano and clicking a mouse.
I do have a great admiration for what some producers can do with these programs (amazing stuff actually) ....but I think getting training on an instrument and learning music theory would be a great start and create a greater admiration of music for potential producers.

Old Post Jan-03-2007 14:04 
Add  to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Why I want to learn about music
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (2): « 1 [2]  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackPlease recognize! - ABSTRACT TRIP-HOP BEAT! [2006] [1]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackFerry Corsten - "Indigo" [2002]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 09:18.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!