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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
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Great, more social engineering.


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Lilith
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Registered: Nov 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Great, more social engineering.


Thats the thing, it doesnt even add anything constructive to society, all it is, is a moral opinion which is subject to change on just about any group of people over time and generations.
100 years ago it was considered morally reprehensible to let someone of the female gender vote, 50 years ago it was morally repulsive to let blacks share toilets, bus seats with whites and 30 years ago it was still in most areas of the world a moral outrage to have a child out of wedlock.
Some things from the past shouldnt be discarded in terms of social values but winding back the clock and forcing people to 'put up' with each other when they really dont want anything to do with one another is completely moronic. All thats going to achieve is unhappy marriges.

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shaolin_Z
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Originally posted by Lilith

Some things from the past shouldnt be discarded in terms of social values but winding back the clock and forcing people to 'put up' with each other when they really dont want anything to do with one another is completely moronic. All thats going to achieve is unhappy marriges.


Yet another problem with modern society. No one had the balls to commit, they're too confortable with their promiscuous/hedonistic (relatively speaking) lifestyles. Change is hard. Most people aren't willing to put up with anyone or make any compromises. And that's why they're loosers in the end.


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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Yet another problem with modern society. No one had the balls to commit, they're too confortable with their promiscuous/hedonistic (relatively speaking) lifestyles. Change is hard. Most people aren't willing to put up with anyone or make any compromises. And that's why they're loosers in the end.


How's it go?

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DJ Shibby
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See...

you give these psychos an inch, and they take a mile.

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DJ Shibby
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quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Thats the thing, it doesnt even add anything constructive to society, all it is, is a moral opinion which is subject to change on just about any group of people over time and generations.
100 years ago it was considered morally reprehensible to let someone of the female gender vote, 50 years ago it was morally repulsive to let blacks share toilets, bus seats with whites and 30 years ago it was still in most areas of the world a moral outrage to have a child out of wedlock.
Some things from the past shouldnt be discarded in terms of social values but winding back the clock and forcing people to 'put up' with each other when they really dont want anything to do with one another is completely moronic. All thats going to achieve is unhappy marriges.


Some scientists theorize that this is why our genetic code limits our lifetimes so severely (it used to be we'd be dead at 20-30, now we've extended it to 50-80, which is way too long and we are seeing the negative ramifications).

Basically, nature thought of the best method to prevent those old people who get "set in their ways" from leaving behind unending legacies that alter future progress.

It's true; the people who are meanest, loudest, and most unfaltering in their ways are the ones who live FOREVER and spread their crappy psychological memes of outdated morality throughout current cultures.

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Groundhog Boy
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quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
No one had the balls to commit

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Change is hard.

These two don't fit. If people find change to be so hard, why are they swapping significant others so often?


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shaolin_Z
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These two don't fit. If people find change to be so hard, why are they swapping significant others so often?


It does. That's exactly my point. Read my statement again:

quote:

No one had the balls to commit, they're too confortable with their promiscuous/hedonistic (relatively speaking) lifestyles. Change is hard


People are used to having (relatively speaking) promiscuous/hednoistic lifestyles before marriage. And then they expect to be commited to one partner from then onwards. Hence, "change is hard." Especially for men. That is, change in subconcious/concious attitudes towards relationships etc. and actually following thourgh on them. That's exactly why they're swaping sifnificant others so often.


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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Lilith
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Blame our hippy, liberal parents I guess
Personally I dont see any real point in sticking with something thats not working out between people, causing undue misery, stress and tension. Admittedly lifes hard, people can be difficult and you shouldnt throw in the towel as easily as some seem to do but if theres a genuine reason to get away from it all then trapping people in relationships isnt the solution either.
And really, who wants the government butting their noses into home affairs and personal relationships, stick to what theyre good at like wasting money, starting fights and taxing the every loving crap out of us...

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DJ Shibby
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quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
These two ... people ... are ... swapping significant others so often


ah... taking things out of context is fun.

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shaolin_Z
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@ Lilith: I'm not condoning this insanity .


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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Lilith
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I know that.

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