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leahzero
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Originally posted by evo8
If you change the colour at the top of your midi editor in cubase from "velocity" to "pitch", the notes will change colour as you go up the scale - i find this helps a little bit when your trying to see which note corresponds to what channel in Battery, rather than having all notes the same colour, can get messy seeing what note is playing a hat or snare etc.......


Great tip! Thanks. Now if only there was some way to use pitch and velocity coloring simultaneously...

I started with Reason as well, and fell in love with Redrum for building complex beats. Switching to Cubase, I had the same issue as you, OP. Unfortunately, there is no easy solution. But there are tons of options you can explore.

For starters, you should check out FXpansion's GURU, a combination sampler/loop player/step sequencer VST, and more. It's not yet as robust a sampler as Battery, but it goes far beyond Battery in terms of functionality. There's a free demo available. I love it, but still find the way it handles patterns and states to be a little awkward, and missing (?) functions like copying pattern to track. But the underlying concept is fantastic, and when it gets a bit more refined, I think this will be THE percussion and loop plugin to go to, period.

What I ended up doing instead was getting an M-Audio Trigger Finger, which you can get bundled with Battery 3 and its excellent huge sample library. It's much more intuitive to program drums by hitting pads than even a MIDI keyboard, IMO. Working with Cubase's drum editor still isn't ideal, but on the plus side I've found myself putting more expression and nuance into my drum tracks with this thing. And of course it's far more fun having a tactile experience with drums than using a mouse to program them. :P

Once GURU is a little older and more robust, I think I'll be switching to it for all drum programming. For now it works well for playing fills, self-made loops, background percussion etc. etc. Has excellent swing features too, and you can do panning/FX/pitch/etc. all right in its sequencer. Definitely keep your eye on this.

And of course as others above mentioned, you always have the option of setting up a step sequencer VST and hooking it into Battery. I don't know much about plugins in this area but it's something I'll be investigating too in this little quest to find a more tolerable and intuitive way to program drums in Cubase.

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Woh when did all these replys appear

When I said I would go back to Reason I meant purley for its Drum machine via Re-wire, I love cubase too much for everything else and think I will be working with it for a long time.

I thought there may be some nice methods in Cubase its self to work loops and the ones mentioned above I am defenatley going to try, Not to mention some of the VST's suggested.

To be honest I've always spent more time working with synths than drums/perc(D+P) ever since I've been using Cubase and I know I need to brush up on drums/perc allot more to be able to create a "complete track".

It's funny though in trance, you can find loads of hit releases that have amazingly complex D+P and good synths, but again there allot of good releases that dont have very complex D+P but make up for it with a phat bassline/synths etc, I've noticed this line more recently when struggling with D+P and paid attention to D+P more in tracks I listen to.


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I really dont see how using a midi clip to play your drums is so difficult compared to using redrum , you can only see 1 drum at a time in redrum if your using the actual redrum itself and not looking at in the step sequencer, which can be a pain...

If you draw a midi clip of 1 bar length - loop it - have your quantize at the top of the midi editor set to 1/16, then its pretty much the same as Redrum and you can see all your drums at the one time, also just extend the clip to 2 bars if you want a 2 bar loop rather than in in redrum where you have to flick that little switch up...
I used to use redrum as well, but its not that hard to get the hang of sequencing drums in Cubase


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flutlicht junky
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You know you can change the midi keyboard view to a drum grid right for entering in midi information?

Just pointing this out in case you didnt know

FJ

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