No need to dip levels when doing a cut.

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Originally posted by Inertia yah, i know, but if it were a slight bit quieter it would be smoother, while still achieving that effect, IMO. then again, i am a level freak, and try to have ALL my tracks on the exact same marker on the VU meter

right but my levelling throughout the mix was intentional. its too easy to do the typical route of having unchanging levels throughout the mix to make it "smooth" so trying to be different I actually use the levels to emphasize progression. you can have a listen to my mix in the promotion forum if youd like. traditionalist views may not agree with this but i feel like its a bit of creativity...but im going off topic here

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I use a lot of cuts when I DJ (I play electro house). A good way to get it to sound smoother is to time it so you cut out the outgoing track at the peak of a...how can I describe this...the sweeping up sound that you hear in so many tracks that often marks the transition from the intro to the meat of the track. boost the mids on the track with the sweep and gradually cut those from the outgoing track, so the sweeping sound starts to become more prevalent in what you are hearing. when the sweep completes, cut the outgoing track, and as you do that the bassline or w/e in the new track should hit at that exact moment. Sorry if any of this was confusing.

I can post a sample later (I'm at a computer lab w/o my precious Mac).

Great thread here....get to hear a little of everyones techniques

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Originally posted by punjabi I use a lot of cuts when I DJ (I play electro house). A good way to get it to sound smoother is to time it so you cut out the outgoing track at the peak of a...how can I describe this...the sweeping up sound that you hear in so many tracks that often marks the transition from the intro to the meat of the track. boost the mids on the track with the sweep and gradually cut those from the outgoing track, so the sweeping sound starts to become more prevalent in what you are hearing. when the sweep completes, cut the outgoing track, and as you do that the bassline or w/e in the new track should hit at that exact moment. Sorry if any of this was confusing. I can post a sample later (I'm at a computer lab w/o my precious Mac).

Little noob interjection here. As mentioned above, using the "sweeping up sound" before a cut sounds great. My question: Could this be the time and place to use a sample of said "sweeping up sound" to produce that effect?

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ofcourse! remember when it comes to mixing there's no set rules. maybe for one dj this sort of thing doesnt sound good or work well but for another dj its his key technique know what i mean?

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster I've uploaded a sample for the topic creator to get an idea of how you would do a quick cut in good taste. this sample is part of my latest mix (you can find it in the dj promotion section) and i did it PVD style like nefardec was talking about...essentially I had 2 bangin tracks that would conflict if I overlapped them even though they're perfectly harmonic so i added a little flash and bang and made a quick cut and it sounds fine. cheers. CLICK HERE FOR THE SAMPLE

Hey dude,

Is it ok if I give a bit of input.

The track you were mixing out of gave you a great opportunity to do the mix about 16 or so earlier and the over all effect would have been greater if you had used the natural break created by the outgoing track. Does this make sense, it would have turned what was a pretty good transition into mustard. You would need to start mixing a little earlier but it allows you to be very mean with the incoming track up until the point where the outgoing does that first break.

Well done for posting an example. Much respect.

Cheers
Nem

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http://707techno.com/mixes/Jakor/quickclip.mp3
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I just through together this mix really quick. Used the two songs together before, but thought they went together nice.

Second Wave into White Flame

Throw me feedback as I'm quite new to mixing.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Hey dude, Is it ok if I give a bit of input. The track you were mixing out of gave you a great opportunity to do the mix about 16 or so earlier and the over all effect would have been greater if you had used the natural break created by the outgoing track. Does this make sense, it would have turned what was a pretty good transition into mustard. You would need to start mixing a little earlier but it allows you to be very mean with the incoming track up until the point where the outgoing does that first break. Well done for posting an example. Much respect. Cheers Nem

Thanks for your input Nem, your opinion is always greatly appreciated. That's definately an interesting take and your right I would have needed to start mixing out earlier to make the cut on the natural break. I'll def try it out as soon as I get back to north america (and to the studio ). Part of the progression of the set itself involved giving tracks longer playouts anyways so this particular mix ended up great anyways but I'm sure what you're suggesting would sound bang on.

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http://707techno.com/mixes/Jakor/quickclip.mp3 1Mb ~1Min Length I just through together this mix really quick. Used the two songs together before, but thought they went together nice. Second Wave into White Flame Throw me feedback as I'm quite new to mixing.

Had a listen and I think its a good example for this thread. Were you intentionally trying to drop the energy in the mix? I think this would be a GREAT mix to achieve that for the floor since the tracks werent in the same key. Worked out great though imho. Sometimes its mixes just like this that can wake up the floor from a monotonous groove (the DJ's worst nightmare...).

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster Thanks for your input Nem, your opinion is always greatly appreciated. That's definately an interesting take and your right I would have needed to start mixing out earlier to make the cut on the natural break. I'll def try it out as soon as I get back to north america (and to the studio ). Part of the progression of the set itself involved giving tracks longer playouts anyways so this particular mix ended up great anyways but I'm sure what you're suggesting would sound bang on.

I hear ya,

The reason though is basically when you do that type of mix, it's basically to avoid the other tune playing out too much, thus taking control of the music and engery.

As a general rule, I try to avoid having just beats mixing in a set unless something really dramatic happens at the start of the new track for example the intro to relocate's 'waterfall'.

Cheers
Nem

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i do my quick transitions like this. havent done a mix in over a month felt good

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That's a good transition, I tend to favour that a lot, especially on the dancefloor, it works very well.

Cheers
Nem

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