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From the picture, looks as if it's floating in midair. Antigravity technology?

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Originally posted by zodiac9 From the picture, looks as if it's floating in midair. Antigravity technology?

hahaha

i hadnt turned the anti grav system on when i took the photo - its just the dodgy camera i used for the snapshot

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I dunno... It looks cool but still is weird to watch it, not used to this look, gotta try it to believe it cause I just can't see it play from 50hz to 20khz...
And I think the monitor is a bit boring... You might wanna put a little sticker infront, a little led and some switches for control, just so it won't look so plain.
Good work though, would love to make something like that.

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Originally posted by 3rd Signal I dunno... It looks cool but still is weird to watch it, not used to this look, gotta try it to believe it cause I just can't see it play from 50hz to 20khz... And I think the monitor is a bit boring... You might wanna put a little sticker infront, a little led and some switches for control, just so it won't look so plain. Good work though, would love to make something like that.

it doesn't play below 50hz... just check out the specs page.

Model:- CERAMIC WONDER (passive)

Cabinet system:- Closed

Uses:- high accuracy studio monitoring, stand alone stereo hi-fi, surround sound

Drive unit:- 140mm metal cone driver (shielded)

Power rating:- 50 wrms

Efficiency:- 88db/1w/1m

Frequency resp:- 50 Hz-20,000 Hz

Impedance:- 6ohm




What sort of amp are you using it with?

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Originally posted by 3rd Signal I dunno... It looks cool but still is weird to watch it, not used to this look, gotta try it to believe it cause I just can't see it play from 50hz to 20khz... And I think the monitor is a bit boring... You might wanna put a little sticker infront, a little led and some switches for control, just so it won't look so plain. Good work though, would love to make something like that.

cheers for your points mister signal.

the sticker will be on the back (serial number/power ratings/impedance) etc. and there are no controls required - they are passive cabinets with no built in amplification/power indication led.

ill post a picture of the completed first pair by the end of the week

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I don't want to ruin this whole thread you've got going here... but I'm going to anyway.

The price is ridiculous man. People just aren't going to separate with that kind of money when they can get powered Genelecs/Adams or various other high end monitors for less.

I'm pretty sure there isn't a single full range driver in existence that can compete with other monitors at that price level. Your design may prove to be ground breaking, but people aren't going to believe it. Without a tweeter and a crossover network, people are going to think you just pulled a random cabinet design out your rectum and plugged a JX92S (99 UK pounds / $250AUD) or some other common DIY driver into it.

On that note... is it a JX92S driver isn't it? :P
Because it looks like it is. Also it happens to be the same size (140mm).

You'll be hard pressed to find many people willing to pay $3,700 Australian dollars for a $250 driver that has already been proven to not be ideal for serious monitoring. Add in a wacky un-tested enclosure and you have a big monetary gamble for anyone this side of the DJ Mag Top 10.

Also, on paper 50hz isn't amazing for that price. Also, according to your graphs, they aren't that flat.

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Originally posted by echosystm I don't want to ruin this whole thread you've got going here... but I'm going to anyway. The price is ridiculous man. People just aren't going to separate with that kind of money when they can get powered Genelecs/Adams or various other high end monitors for less. I'm pretty sure there isn't a single full range driver in existence that can compete with other monitors at that price level. Your design may prove to be ground breaking, but people aren't going to believe it. Without a tweeter and a crossover network, people are going to think you just pulled a random cabinet design out your rectum and plugged a JX92S (99 UK pounds / $250AUD) or some other common DIY driver into it. On that note... is it a JX92S driver isn't it? :P Because it looks like it is. Also it happens to be the same size (140mm). You'll be hard pressed to find many people willing to pay $3,700 Australian dollars for a $250 driver that has already been proven to not be ideal for serious monitoring. Add in a wacky un-tested enclosure and you have a big monetary gamble for anyone this side of the DJ Mag Top 10. Also, on paper 50hz isn't amazing for that price. Also, according to your graphs, they aren't that flat. The end.

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£1500 is not a large expense for something that is hand made in very small quantities, by hand - because ceramic is a hand made process. with regards to the genelecs you mention, genelec use injected plastic and the cheapest drive units they can get away with, to create a product that performs to the abilities that someone expects at that price. my guess is that genelec spend about the same on materials as i do. only their units are being made by the barrel load. and in their buget they buy two amplifiers and two drivers, per cab. all the buget in my product goes into a top quality material process and a single full range driver. - these are high end, and the driver is nothing but high end.

tweeter/crossover -

the driver design has had 50 years of input from the most respected man in british audio. you have not heared the unit so you cannot make assumptions that it cannot compete. you say you are pretty sure no full range driver can match......? on what technical data are you going by on your knowledge?

random cabinet design -

much thought, research, experimentation and attention went into the cabinet design. please dont try querying design theories you you quite blatantly dont have knowledge in.

proven not ideal for serious monitoring -

where has that been proven? hahahaha

50hz not amazing for the price -

50 hz is not an amazing figure at the price. you have one point! but couple these with a high quality subwoofer and now you have the amazing 50hz and up accuracy these cabs provide, with the extended low from the additional subwoofer.

according to your graphs, they aren't that flat -

to an audio professional this is an honest, professional graph. the super flat respose charts of the units you compair it to are most likely biased.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations What sort of amp are you using it with?

it has been tested on an alesis ra150 to good effect.

a 20wrms (i think) hitachi amplifier from the 70's/80's (ha-250) - for testing with standard low powered hif-fi.


the main testing has been through a uk made chameleon audio/smartlight sl600 monitor amplifier. it pushes just under 300rms per channel and really had hold of that cone!

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They do look good, but being ceramic I assume means don't knock 'em over. Have you tested them for breakage?
Also I'm interested to know what driver you are using.
Good luck with them.

PS I can't see the graph on your site.Is it under the specs? (image not loading on my browser)

hey scot.

yes! - ceramic means DONT knock them over... however, they are very bottom heavy so will not topple over in a hurry. the outer shell is ceramic, the inner is 25mm dense concrete wall - so it wont be like having a pair of bone china vases with drivers in them. and the slight knock wont render them smashed

the awsome driver is designed by ted jordan of ej jordan designs - a pioneering figure in full range. they call him 'the father of full range' the model is very similar to their popular jx92 driver.

im not sure why the graph isnt showing up. it is on the 'specs' page (under the list of specs).

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