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Originally posted by LazFX Now that is surely the Pot calling the kettle black. ^^

Sometimes I feel good that there is a language barrier between you and me, so I can't understand a thing in what you saying.

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Originally posted by star-traveller Sometimes I feel good that there is a language barrier between you and me, so I can't understand a thing in what you saying.

Ignorance is so Blissful, ain't it??

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Originally posted by LazFX Ignorance is so Blissful, ain't it??

Yes. But only towards you.

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Originally posted by star-traveller Sometimes I feel good that there is a language barrier between you and me, so I can't understand a thing in what you saying.

LOL

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Originally posted by star-traveller Yes. But only towards you.

So basically, despite all the despisement of Russia on this forum, these "haters" are at a loss as to describe how they think democracy in Russia is attainable to world standards without the use of force. It's easy to criticize a country, eh? ... but hard to make a suggestion!

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Some of us arent that arrogant or to be that presumptous to tell someone else how to run their own country as they see fit...

edit- sure we can be critical and make suggestions but for the most part outside help is rarely wanted and criticism never taken well, that and the world has enough idealistic fools running around with no sense of reality.

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Originally posted by Lilith Some of us arent that arrogant or to be that presumptous to tell someone else how to run their own country as they see fit... edit- sure we can be critical and make suggestions but for the most part outside help is rarely wanted and criticism never taken well, that and the world has enough idealistic fools running around with no sense of reality.

So, are you going to make a recommendation on to how Russia is to achieve democracy according to western lifestyles? Or are we going to sidetrack?

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It's easy to criticize a country, for its problems, development, bla bla. Lets see if you run that country and how much you can achieve ;-) Easier said than done. Being a President of a country like Russia is a lot of work. And things cant get better overnight. Though they've already become better in the last 4 years under Putin. He accomplished more in the last 4 years than Yeltsin did in his whole 9.

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No, I'm going to tell you right now that democracy is a complete crock, its an ideal made up by philosphers and supported by politicians who hand it down to the peons so they think theyre being supported and get a say in the matters of their lives.

When you fall out of whatever higher education system youre probably running around like some kind of cloistered and probably fairly intelligent person you are.
You'll get a job and work your arse off to make ends meet.
You'll get a loan to buy a house so you'll have somewhere to live.
You'll probably end up with kids and a partner of some sort and you can come back here and tell me 'how the world works' and where 'democracy' plays a huge part in it all.

Heres a hint
It doesnt.
The world spins on one thing only, the dollar
And in that world of idealistic, equality, a fair say, fair go, you'll realise that there is no day to day democracy.
You'll work for a tyrant, you'll rarely get a say on how the business runs and you'll be expected to do it without question... at the end of the day capitalism is your value and worth to the world.
How much you make
How much you spend
Will determine exactly how much say in how the world works.
Those with the money, make the world spin, you dont have money, you dont get a say.

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Originally posted by Lilith Its compulsory in lots of countries

That fact doesn't make voting more democratic



Oh, and hail mother Russia. They've got hot womenz and good writers there

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Originally posted by Lilith No, I'm going to tell you right now that democracy is a complete crock, its an ideal made up by philosphers and supported by politicians who hand it down to the peons so they think theyre being supported and get a say in the matters of their lives. When you fall out of whatever higher education system youre probably running around like some kind of cloistered and probably fairly intelligent person you are. You'll get a job and work your arse off to make ends meet. You'll get a loan to buy a house so you'll have somewhere to live. You'll probably end up with kids and a partner of some sort and you can come back here and tell me 'how the world works' and where 'democracy' plays a huge part in it all. Heres a hint It doesnt. The world spins on one thing only, the dollar And in that world of idealistic, equality, a fair say, fair go, you'll realise that there is no day to day democracy. You'll work for a tyrant, you'll rarely get a say on how the business runs and you'll be expected to do it without question... at the end of the day capitalism is your value and worth to the world. How much you make How much you spend Will determine exactly how much say in how the world works. Those with the money, make the world spin, you dont have money, you dont get a say.

Yeah, yeah, dollar, dollar, democracy doesnt exist, its not attainable, it will end ... sure, whatever floats your boat ;-) But I believe in democracy.

Are you going to make a recommendation on Russian democracy or are you going to forever hold your peace?

Or are you justifying democracy in Russia?

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