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Originally posted by isoterra
i'd love to make a hybrid of psy & old-style trance, mainly with the production standards/synths/percussion you get in today's regular uplifting/tech trance. it would be quite driving, sometimes almost veering into the 'hard' territory with thundering basslines & killer acids.. there would be melodies, but without much emphasis on chord changes, and there would be loads of atmospheric pads & sound effects creating a kinda hypnotic vibe. breakdowns would also be fairly minimal |
That's a really great idea, an idea that i recently thought of as well. I thought that producing old-school trance, the type of dance 2 trance and resistance-d with todays standards (you would combine it with goa, something that could be also interesting)could make a great combination. It would be great to listen to an old-school, rhythmical and hypnotic track with the old-school ambient chords (which were usually streesed in the "background") with todays productions techniques and samples, that could be mind-blowing, especially in the case that the track is made in an instanteneous and rapid way as back then. Todays tracks seem to be produced in a much cut'n'paste, clinical way. What they miss is a kind of "rapidness" and "instinctiveness"-the "spontaneous factor" that old tracks had. IMO, it would be much more interesting then the the electro thing that happens at the moment, but it is all a matter of taste in the end. So, i suggest you go for your plan!(who knows, you may start a kind of "retro-trance" scene...)
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
If there was one track that would some up what kind of music I'd like to make, it would be the album version of Leftfield's Song Of Life. If there were two, the other would be Paul Van Dyk's Beautiful Place. What I like about Song Of Life is how it has a really strong and epic melody that is simultaneously quite simple and subtle, and it marries that to strong synths that power the track forwards. Beautiful Place is similar- there's some very beautiful pianos in there, but the dancefloor parts of the track are driven by synth riffs and chord progression. And then there's the ambient intro to Song Of Life.
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Oh yes, both tracks are ace! I can see why you like them, they have similar qualities in a way. They both have strong driving rhythms occuring on top of refreshing new-agey ambient chords and atmospheres (the type that enigma used)and this is what makes them great. Generally speaking, i consider "Leftism" to be one the best EDM albums ever made. A heterogeneous but nevertheless integrated album full of ideas. Its sad though, because it seems that most of the newer producers don't seem to remember such EDM masterpieces anymore.EDM as "art" not simply as dance music.
| quote: | Essentially, what I like is very lush soundscapes and powerful, delicate melodies that might otherwise dominate a track, and toning them down and building them around futuristic synth symphonies. My tracks would be long as a general rule, but that time wouldn't be dominated by endless loops and slow hypnotism as layers build up. My tracks would be ever-changing and built around distinct phases that interlock and reference each other- much like Orbital structure their records and albums, which they took from the rave scene.
I'd also like to alternate between rhythmic templates- going through four-on-the-floor and different breaks, even within tracks. I wouldn't be afraid of having long ambient sections, often where the melody occurs, but once the beats have kicked in the priority would be to maintain the movement in some form.
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Great this is a way i thought of producing EDM as well. Instead of going back to the "rhythmical" roots, evolve in a more "musical" way, pretty much how orbital evolved from strict dance to more artistic, non-linear electronic music and albums such as "in sides" and "snivilisation".
Also, i find your idea of "rhytmical and melodic alternations" within tracks completely mind-blowing. Maybe the reason that people are bored of todays trance, is not because todays trance doesn't have melodies and ideas, but because its structure remains identical to the 90s. e.g. a build, a break and a kick-back with the main melody-theme. It would be much greater for a track to evolve (like what ulrich Schnauss does with his ambient/downtempo tracks) , in both rhythmical and melodic fashions. Changing rhythm patterns would be great, one "could play" with a dance crowd. Such a structure could maximally engage the attention of both a dancer or a simple listener. This "changing" nature would keep the interest at high levels and the overall "musicallity" of the track would increase.
Nice, great contributions everyone. keep it up.
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