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Originally posted by Chris Allen

oh. my. god. I honestly just shit my pants! Thank you for making my fucking day man. That is the greatest video I've seen in a long time.

AWESOME!!

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Originally posted by girllovingtvibe I thin Muzzybear would have something very interesting to share on this one.....

is he (or she) a JW? somehow I don't think being a JW and maintaining a rave/party lifestyle go well together, but you never know.

watch that video!

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Has anyone noticed how hot JWs are?? I'd love to invite them in for a REAL lesson in corruption.



And just so you know, there are other options for blood transfusions for Jehova's Witnesses. They store their own blood for later use...can't remember what it's called...I think a homologous transfusion? I'll look it up. But yeah, there ARE options that coincide with their beliefs.


edit: It's called an AUTOLOGOUS transfusion.

http://www.bloodbook.com/autolog-1.html

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Originally posted by jennypie Has anyone noticed how hot JWs are?? I'd love to invite them in for a REAL lesson in corruption. And just so you know, there are other options for blood transfusions for Jehova's Witnesses. They store their own blood for later use...can't remember what it's called...I think a homologous transfusion? I'll look it up. But yeah, there ARE options that coincide with their beliefs.

how many of them actually store their own blood? The other options you speak of have something to do with plasma. My friend carried around a card (much like an organ donation card) that said if here to be injured and needed blood, NOT to perform the transfusion and let him die instead. I asked him if he would really let that happen and you know what, he didn't answer. So there you go. I'm sorry but it's a retarded belief. What other religions are against it?

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 how many of them actually store their own blood? The other options you speak of have something to do with plasma. My friend carried around a card (much like an organ donation card) that said if here to be injured and needed blood, NOT to perform the transfusion and let him die instead. I asked him if he would really let that happen and you know what, he didn't answer. So there you go. I'm sorry but it's a retarded belief. What other religions are against it?

Well it's THEIR belief. That's why the world needs educated health care professionals to advocate for these kind of people, to let them know there ARE options for them.

Sure, to US it's retarded...but what's MORE retarded is the lack of education on the matter.

I love religious pacifists.

Once I got a JW to admit that he'd kill someone to protect his wife.

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

I have 5 generations of Witnesses in my family and have carried many of the beliefs, but cannot say "I'm a witness" because of my obvious lifestyle choices. Scripturally speaking, blood is sacred, and to take blood in any form is to nullify your faith in Jesus blood that he spilled for us.

I have a friend who was an emergency room nurse, and she approached me at a party and said she'd had 16 witnesses come thru emergency who refused blood transfusions. How many died? Not one. In fact, many doctors won't give their own families blood transfusions for their own safety. There are many alternatives like plasma or blood expanders and saline. Witnesses are discriminated against because of their beliefs, but more seriously, what this attacks is a Canadian's right to practice their religious beliefs. It was also noted that these transfusions given to the children didn't make a difference, and in fact, their bodies would have an additional battle against the foreign substance in their bodies.

Did you know that Pope John Paul II contracted hepatitis from the transfusion he received after being shot, prolonging his recovery by weeks? Think of the people who died slow, painful deaths after receiving blood transfusions and contracted the AIDS viruses. Would not other alternatives served them better? The Red Cross is a money making industry and doctors are pressured to keep the money flowing. Look into it.

My girlfriend (non-witness) hemorraged seriously during childbirth and when asked for a blood transfusion refused, and was asked "personal or religions reasons", told them "personal" and was granted options like saline and plasma with no issues.

My mother just completed chemo and radiation for cancer without any blood transfusions, and her own doctor has marvelled at her quick recovery and good health during these difficult procedures.

I have had "bloodless" surgery to remove my appendix, and was out of the hospital in a record 3 days (when I was in grade 6). The usual stay was 5 days with blood transfusions.

To tell someone in this country "you can't" when it's part of their religious beliefs is to go against one of the most fundamental things that makes us "free". That's what you should all be worried about.

And that's all I have to say about that!

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but how can people decided (even parents) if a baby or a little child who has been injured or has a disease that can be cured via a blood tranfusion, should die instead.

What if these individuals grow up to be a teenager or adult and realise that the religion isn't for them (which has since happened to my ex friend)?

Call it what you will, but when (silly and unfounded) religious beliefs like these can determine the fate of a minor, the government needs to step in. And, in most cases, they will.

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Originally posted by muzzybear I have 5 generations of Witnesses in my family and have carried many of the beliefs, but cannot say "I'm a witness" because of my obvious lifestyle choices. Scripturally speaking, blood is sacred, and to take blood in any form is to nullify your faith in Jesus blood that he spilled for us. I have a friend who was an emergency room nurse, and she approached me at a party and said she'd had 16 witnesses come thru emergency who refused blood transfusions. How many died? Not one. In fact, many doctors won't give their own families blood transfusions for their own safety. There are many alternatives like plasma or blood expanders and saline. Witnesses are discriminated against because of their beliefs, but more seriously, what this attacks is a Canadian's right to practice their religious beliefs. It was also noted that these transfusions given to the children didn't make a difference, and in fact, their bodies would have an additional battle against the foreign substance in their bodies. Did you know that Pope John Paul II contracted hepatitis from the transfusion he received after being shot, prolonging his recovery by weeks? Think of the people who died slow, painful deaths after receiving blood transfusions and contracted the AIDS viruses. Would not other alternatives served them better? The Red Cross is a money making industry and doctors are pressured to keep the money flowing. Look into it. My girlfriend (non-witness) hemorraged seriously during childbirth and when asked for a blood transfusion refused, and was asked "personal or religions reasons", told them "personal" and was granted options like saline and plasma with no issues. My mother just completed chemo and radiation for cancer without any blood transfusions, and her own doctor has marvelled at her quick recovery and good health during these difficult procedures. I have had "bloodless" surgery to remove my appendix, and was out of the hospital in a record 3 days (when I was in grade 6). The usual stay was 5 days with blood transfusions. To tell someone in this country "you can't" when it's part of their religious beliefs is to go against one of the most fundamental things that makes us "free". That's what you should all be worried about. And that's all I have to say about that!

Well said!

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 (silly and unfounded) religious beliefs

Who the hell are you to say that?

then if that is the case muzzy, do you support euthanasia? Of course you don't.

My grandmother has been battling a long lasting and very debilitating liver disease and has been having blood transfusions every 4-6 months for 7 years. It has kept her alive since 1999. Otherwise, she would have died at age 73. She is a devout Anglican and more importantly, wanted to see her grand kids grow up to adulthood. Are you going to tell me that she has "sinned"? Because that's precisely what my JW friend's mother told my father when she came to pick him up after school one time.

I couldn't believe the fucking nerve.

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Originally posted by jennypie Who the hell are you to say that?

my opinion only but probably that of many others as well, as can be seen from this thread.

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