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sterilis
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Belfast/Ibiza/Manchester

i tend to find hard trance tracks in major key.


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BOOsTER
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I don't


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sterilis
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quote:
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I don't


good for you. im saying i do.


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BOOsTER
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quote:
Originally posted by sterilis
good for you. im saying i do.


indeed every real hardtrance producer makes his music in major scales only...

it's like saying that 95% of trance was written in A minor with 140 bpm...<<< actually this is still more true...then what you said...


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shaminii
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Washington DC

So lets get this straight, you can go:

+1
+2
+4
+7
-1
-3

I've only heard of +1, -1, and +7 but if the above are true then I'am relieved to know I have more options. I was about to give up harmonic mixing and just go w/ my ear because of the lack of selections if I'm mixing by key. Although theres nothing wrong w/ mixing by what sounds good to the ear.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by shaminii
So lets get this straight, you can go:

+1
+2
+4
+7
-1
-3

I've only heard of +1, -1, and +7 but if the above are true then I'am relieved to know I have more options. I was about to give up harmonic mixing and just go w/ my ear because of the lack of selections if I'm mixing by key. Although theres nothing wrong w/ mixing by what sounds good to the ear.


+2s dont work. at least not according to nemesis44, and i listen to him (cheers nem!). also +4 & +7 can depend on the tunes youre mixing. imo -3 always sounds the best


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SPAWNmaster
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Boston, USA

well as a rule of thumb always go for +/- 1 or +/- 7. essentially the idea is to learn how to mix into perfect 5ths of your closest or true keys and develop an ear for it..i wouldnt rely on the camelot system exlusively but use it as a guide and then experiement from there. if you add rules you're only going to limit your creativity. mix into perfect 4ths/5ths...relative major/minors and step up half or full keys (or down) if needed to enhance the set or change the energy on the dance floor.

if you have a track that's in a#, a track in eb may not necessariliy mix well into it even though its harmonic according to camelot...perhaps the percussion may not be in the same key or match well at all and maybe the main melodies may not be in the key that your basslines are in (although for the most part tracks generally stay in the same key throughout) so like what im getting at is to trust your ears over the system but its definately a good guide if your beginning to get into harmonics


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petercolon
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Jul 2006
Location: Long Island, New York

quote:
Originally posted by agentdansmith
Cool.

Something that I have noticed is that none of my tunes have a B keycode, they are all A's.

Does that sound right? I am using MixMeister Fusion to scan my tracks.


hey agent smith, agent colon from the U.S. office here. I just wanted to know how you liked the mixmeister program? I was thinking of getting the studio version (i can't afford to buy the fusion version at this point in time) and i was wondering if it is worth the money. any help would be greatly appreciated. over and out.

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agentdansmith
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Cannock, UK

quote:
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hey agent smith, agent colon from the U.S. office here. I just wanted to know how you liked the mixmeister program? I was thinking of getting the studio version (i can't afford to buy the fusion version at this point in time) and i was wondering if it is worth the money. any help would be greatly appreciated. over and out.


So far, I've only used it for scanning my tunes and assigning keycodes to them. And that's pretty much all I'd use it for.

I had a little dabble with the mixing side of things but it seemed too limited plus I think that software based mixing is a bit dull (plus I've got Ableton Live which is much better if that's what you're after).

So, if you're after just something for scanning and archiving your tracks in key order, then it's seems pretty good but then you may as well just download the demo as you can do all that in the unlimited demo version anyway

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