nice stuff. i need to get ahold of more similar material

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ehhhm anyway i remeber listening once to a group called noisex and i think they were power-noise...perhaps you should check them out?

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Originally posted by Lira If you don't know what Power Noise is, I bring you Detritus, Synapscape, Radium and, although it's not really Power Noise, Hellfish.

Detritus was pretty good. I liked that one.
Hellfish was quite good too although I don't like the hardstyle influences. Radium has clearly too much hardstyle for me. And Synapscape were too weird for me.

But there are several more clips from this DeciBELIO festival on Youtube ... even damn good ones ... check out the This Morn Omina video - live drums, tribal madness and razor-sharp noize! Man, they are seriously something decent!

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i just watched one of the videos...

i'm sure it is a lot better live, but it got annoying really fast.

just my take on it.

Lira, you'd probably love:

Merzbow
Masonna
MSBR
Third Organ
Controlled Bleeding (the early stuff. The later stuff is really dark and ambient)
SPK (the early stuff such as Slogun)
Whitehouse (really hit and miss here but its all bizaare, and often quite funny. If you can track down some of their live performances during the 80s then you are in for a treat. Brutal stuff, usually interupted part way through by police clearing the place out. Smashing!)

and others of its ilk. Its very loud, mostly based on static and white noise. Check out Pulse Demon by Merzbow. If you listen to enough Merzbow you start to realise the man does actually do make a surprisingly varied selection of...music which is mostly based on clipping distortion. The kind of property of recorded sound that most people try to avoid as a principle.

I guess you could call this power electronics or power noise or whatever. But its basically industrial music in the sense that its music that anyone could make. You dont need to muscianship or skill or a particular instrument.

:eng101: which is why the original industrial record label was so called - it was music made for the consumption of the working class, and the 'unskilled'. You could think of it as a total reinvention of music that tries to avoid everything that makes modern musical composition the way it is eg. reliance on harmonic intervals, scales, chords, melody, harmony and strict rhythym which you don't really deviate far from.

If you are feeling a little more adventurous, then feel free to check out the stuff on Cold Meat Industry like Machinenzimmer.412. In particular 'In Nomine Dei' which is not so much noisy as it is ambience. It tries to capture a mood. You may also like Memorandum though by this point the emphasis is less on completely overloading your senses with noise and rather using sound to create sensation. Its not musical at all but the roots are the same. It is often thought of as 'Dark Ambient'

Also check out Coil which is moving off the whole idea of industrial and ambient music altogether and does incorporate musical elements into it. Its all heavily ritualised though and your enjoyment of the...music, depends largely on the weight and significance you personally place on what you hear. It can go either way.

Is Detritus' other stuff like what he was playin in that first vid? coz its pretty nice

As for the others, i don't mind it, but i probably wouldn't listen to it for an hour (though in the right atmosphere...)

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check out the This Morn Omina video

Whoa...

How is the first video power noise?

As for the other videos:

I started watching the clips expecting a random white noise attack, instead I get what I've been listening to for quite a while. Stuff like Iszoloscope, Winterkälte and other artists from the Ant-Zen crew. And yes, I'm familiar with Hellfish. I guess I've just always thought of it as some form of industrial hardcore. Oh well.

Droning ambient static is just annoying though, I guess you just call that "Noise"?

Whit an absolute pile of pish!!

OMG, This Morn' Omina is amazing!!! And I'm going to look for Noisex

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Originally posted by Nsonic Is Detritus' other stuff like what he was playin in that first vid? coz its pretty nice As for the others, i don't mind it, but i probably wouldn't listen to it for an hour (though in the right atmosphere...) Whoa...

Equilibrium, which you can find here, is similar. I'm not quite sure about the tunes from other albums, but Detritus is known for being both melodic and noisy.

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Originally posted by distant How is the first video power noise?

Well, Detritus usually plays Power Noise, and except for the melody, it's still very rhythmic and distorted, so I thought it could be considered PN as well

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Originally posted by distant As for the other videos: I started watching the clips expecting a random white noise attack, instead I get what I've been listening to for quite a while. Stuff like Iszoloscope, Winterkälte and other artists from the Ant-Zen crew. And yes, I'm familiar with Hellfish. I guess I've just always thought of it as some form of industrial hardcore. Oh well. Droning ambient static is just annoying though, I guess you just call that "Noise"?

Yes, I'd call it noise. As for the other bands you've mentioned, I'm going to look for more about Winterkälte and the artists on Ant-Zen (Iszoloscope is one of the very few names I know )

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Originally posted by Derivative Lira, you'd probably love: Merzbow Masonna MSBR Third Organ Controlled Bleeding (the early stuff. The later stuff is really dark and ambient) SPK (the early stuff such as Slogun) Whitehouse (really hit and miss here but its all bizaare, and often quite funny. If you can track down some of their live performances during the 80s then you are in for a treat. Brutal stuff, usually interupted part way through by police clearing the place out. Smashing!) and others of its ilk. Its very loud, mostly based on static and white noise. Check out Pulse Demon by Merzbow. If you listen to enough Merzbow you start to realise the man does actually do make a surprisingly varied selection of...music which is mostly based on clipping distortion. The kind of property of recorded sound that most people try to avoid as a principle. I guess you could call this power electronics or power noise or whatever. But its basically industrial music in the sense that its music that anyone could make. You dont need to muscianship or skill or a particular instrument. :eng101: which is why the original industrial record label was so called - it was music made for the consumption of the working class, and the 'unskilled'. You could think of it as a total reinvention of music that tries to avoid everything that makes modern musical composition the way it is eg. reliance on harmonic intervals, scales, chords, melody, harmony and strict rhythym which you don't really deviate far from. If you are feeling a little more adventurous, then feel free to check out the stuff on Cold Meat Industry like Machinenzimmer.412. In particular 'In Nomine Dei' which is not so much noisy as it is ambience. It tries to capture a mood. You may also like Memorandum though by this point the emphasis is less on completely overloading your senses with noise and rather using sound to create sensation. Its not musical at all but the roots are the same. It is often thought of as 'Dark Ambient' Also check out Coil which is moving off the whole idea of industrial and ambient music altogether and does incorporate musical elements into it. Its all heavily ritualised though and your enjoyment of the...music, depends largely on the weight and significance you personally place on what you hear. It can go either way.

Cheers, mate, that was a good read

Merzbow was the only familiar name in the bunch, and his tunes are indeed interesting. However, I had learned that Power Electronics and Power Noise were different: Power Noise was the more rhythmic stuff and Power Electronics consisted of screeching waves of feedback, analogue synthesizers making sub-bass pulses or high frequency squealing sounds, and screamed, distorted, often hateful and offensive lyrics

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Originally posted by tibberino Whit an absolute pile of pish!!

Whit an utterly pertinent post!!

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Originally posted by Lira ...Power Electronics consisted of screeching waves of feedback, analogue synthesizers making sub-bass pulses or high frequency squealing sounds, and screamed, distorted, often hateful and offensive lyrics

That would be Whitehouse, then. I'm not a fan of them, too S&M. Surgeon has been known to drop various Whitehouse tracks in his sets, it works quite well on that level though.

I really enjoyed the 4th one