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Originally posted by Inertia this is an expensive fucking hobby.

Plus a big fat motherfucking hairy balled 1.

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Originally posted by Rebel Brown Plus a big fat motherfucking hairy balled 1.

I agree. But I also recommend learning on crap equipment. I hate to see newbies shell out 1000's of dollars on premier equipment only to find that the hobby is not for them. All you benefit is people like me who don't mind scooping up the realtively new gear for less than retail price for a second setup.

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i agree, it's pretty pretentious for a newbie to go out and buy CDJ-1000Mk3s and a XONE:92 mixer.

however, i don't fully recommend buying shit. it's just a bad investment. what if it really isn't for you? shitty resale value. perhaps you would like it more if the gear didn't suck as much too.

i think the best way to go about it is based on luck. if you're as lucky as i was and have a good friend with decks that won't mind you making fucking disgusting trainwrecks for a few hours 2-3 times a week for a while, you are SET. you learn to mix with a friend helping you, which really helps out when you are stumped, and, you learn if you really like this for free.

i spent about a year spinning with my friend, and having gotten decent within about 2 months, he really didn't mind me at all. i became his spinning buddy basically. a year later, i started buying my own gear. i still haven't been able to afford a full setup, so we put all our gear together.

getting a friend who spins isn't that hard, if you know a lot about music. if you become friends with a DJ, you know your shit, and you are genuinely eager to learn because you like it and not based on image, i'm pretty sure you'll be helped out.

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at least if you spend cash on quality gear and you find it's not for you, the resale value is still high

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Mentoring is such a lost art these days. Everybody wants to be a rock-star the minute they buy thier gear. They get equipment they have no clue how to use and expect to naturally get booked immediately. I agree. My apologies for assuming the mentoring process to being a precursor to taking the next step to actually getting your own gear.

I'm not for buying absolute crap gear, that's for sure. There's products out there that a middle road gear that works fine and doesn't cost you two month's salary. Spending thousands on top-of-the-line gear just isn't wise when you're first starting out. The resale on sub-industry standard gear isn't as bad as one might think. There's always somebody (like yourself) looking for gear for cheap.

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Originally posted by Tony Morello at least if you spend cash on quality gear and you find it's not for you, the resale value is still high

Yep, this is a big part of it IMO.

Although that doesn't mean you need top of the range. I've always thought beginners should start out on the lower ranges made by the quality brands, e.g. the cheaper Vestax mixers - a VMC002XL clocks in at about £125, will still be completely intact 18 months later and will probably fetch about £100 if you decide to sell, or will make a solid spare mixer if you decide to upgrade.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox Yep, this is a big part of it IMO. Although that doesn't mean you need top of the range. I've always thought beginners should start out on the lower ranges made by the quality brands, e.g. the cheaper Vestax mixers - a VMC002XL clocks in at about £125, will still be completely intact 18 months later and will probably fetch about £100 if you decide to sell, or will make a solid spare mixer if you decide to upgrade.

I second on Vestax mixers. I had a four-channel PMC-15V. That thing was a TANK. Desert parties, one-off's at the beach, weekly club nights, it handled it all. Five years and never had to replace even a fader. When it died, I lost an output channel. I was crushed.

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