The best part about the metal storm is that they have handgun and rifle sized versions also

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Flatbed truck actually and that's most likely for the all the ammo it has to carry...

Right. Well what I was getting at was that until it can fit on a humvee RPGs will always have some use.

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Originally posted by XaNaX Even more badass: Metal Storm

I think Phalanx and Metal Storm are 2 completely different classes of weapon systems and Phalanx appears to be significantly more powerful than Metal Storm. The badass version of Phalanx is actually the Rolling Airframe Missile or RIM-116 since it seems that Phalanx, which is primarily an anti-missile system, is incapable of dealing with some of the modern threats.

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Sea RAM has been developed as direct replacement for the much shorter ranged gun-based Phalanx system, which unlike RAM is not able to deal with multiple targets coming in simultaneously and has lower kill chances, especially against erratic moving missiles. It combines Phalanx' hardware (radar and mount) with an 11 cell RAM launcher to produce an autonomous system, which does not need any external information to engage threats. Sea RAM thus can (like Phalanx) be fitted to all kind of ships, e.g. also on replenishment ships which usually do not have integrated combat systems and only limited sensors.

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Originally posted by Omega_M I think Phalanx and Metal Storm are 2 completely different classes of weapon systems and Phalanx appears to be significantly more powerful than Metal Storm. The badass version of Phalanx is actually the Rolling Airframe Missile or RIM-116 since it seems that Phalanx, which is primarily an anti-missile system, is incapable of dealing with some of the modern threats.

Agreed, I dunno which one is "more powerful" but the Metal Storm would be unreal for area denial, anti-vehicular and anti-personnel applications.

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Originally posted by XaNaX Agreed, I dunno which one is "more powerful" but the Metal Storm would be unreal for area denial, anti-vehicular and anti-personnel applications.

I think it would be a violation of the Geneva Conventoin to use this gun system on exposed infantry. I can't remember where I read it, but large calibre machine guns are only "permitted" for use against vehicles and buildings.

Yes, I know these rules often go out the window in the heat of battle.

They could also use it for clearing a path through a minefield.

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Originally posted by pmoisse I think it would be a violation of the Geneva Conventoin to use this gun system on exposed infantry. I can't remember where I read it, but large calibre machine guns are only "permitted" for use against vehicles and buildings. Yes, I know these rules often go out the window in the heat of battle. They could also use it for clearing a path through a minefield.

That is the beauty of it, the system uses rounds no different than those used in battle against infantry now. 40mm grenades, 9mm, .223, and .308.

I'm not sure that it is any kind of violation anyway, attack helicopters and armored vehicles will often have a 20mm or 30mm cannon and I'm sure it is fired at troops in battle.

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Originally posted by XaNaX That is the beauty of it, the system uses rounds no different than those used in battle against infantry now. 40mm grenades, 9mm, .223, and .308.

These are all ok from what I remember

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I'm not sure that it is any kind of violation anyway, attack helicopters and armored vehicles will often have a 20mm or 30mm cannon and I'm sure it is fired at troops in battle.

These are too big to use against a bunch of dudes (apparently). The grey area comes when the helicopter of Bradley IFV attacks mechanized infantry and dudes get in the way etc etc. Fog of war, bigtime.

Again, I might have misread something regarding this.

I'm not sure if anyone noticed but this isn't an RPG killer and it states so in description.

This weapon is designed to destroy incoming "arcing" munitions, such as artillery shells, cruise missiles, mortar shells, etc.

RPG rounds are not "arcing" munitions, they are aimed directly at the target, not upwards - thus making it too difficult to intercept with this weapon.

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Originally posted by Aquadyne I'm not sure if anyone noticed but this isn't an RPG killer and it states so in description. This weapon is designed to destroy incoming "arcing" munitions, such as artillery shells, cruise missiles, mortar shells, etc. RPG rounds are not "arcing" munitions, they are aimed directly at the target, not upwards - thus making it too difficult to intercept with this weapon.

That is true. An RPG would be a very difficult weapon to intercept. Its typically fired from close range from behind cover from an unpredictable direction. Very hard to intercept.