could it be that the media is making the case for war more than the Administration?

i don't know just a thought.

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Originally posted by Q5echo could it be that the media is making the case for war more than the Administration? i don't know just a thought.

there is no way, Its all of the US's fault and Bush, and you know that.
The media is faultless..... lol


seriously though, I see your point, Right now, America Media in whole has turned me off. I mean last night I was flipping channels and every single new org. CNN, FOX, MSNBC and even the local was leading with Anna Nicole. WTF!! I mean really

There will always be an element of the ever present sensationalism in any story with the media, its what sells, its what people want to read. I'm even slightly sceptical too of the evidence there with the munitions being labelled the way they are, it might just mean they're from export stocks rather than domestic military.
I don't know!
Heck does anyone know how Iran labels its export munitions?


I disliked the idea of the US fiddling around for evidence though in the first place, just stinks too much of the last time they where doing that and came up with nothing in Iraq. And after all, the Iranians aren't stupid, arrogant maybe, but I'm not so sure they'd be keen to pull the US's tail either way with any kind of evidence.

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Originally posted by Lilith There will always be an element of the ever present sensationalism in any story with the media, its what sells, its what people want to read. I'm even slightly sceptical too of the evidence there with the munitions being labelled the way they are, it might just mean they're from export stocks rather than domestic military. I don't know! Heck does anyone know how Iran labels its export munitions? I disliked the idea of the US fiddling around for evidence though in the first place, just stinks too much of the last time they where doing that and came up with nothing in Iraq. And after all, the Iranians aren't stupid, arrogant maybe, but I'm not so sure they'd be keen to pull the US's tail either way with any kind of evidence.

you know, before the Whole WMD, yellow Cake, Aluminum Tube fiasco of the Pre-Invasion Iraq reports, I would of told ya, STFU...... but now, with what we know..... I can agree with my esteemed colleague from the Land Down Under.

So unless they have a video of the Ayalotoya Jackson Koolaidia lighting the fuse himself, I will always be skeptical.....

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Originally posted by Dopey it is possible Iran accounted for the possibility that the weapons would get seized and printed western dating on the weapons bound for Iraq

The Iranians are crazy but not stupid. If they are shipping weapons to Iraq they are not going to put markings on them that would prove that they came from Iran.

And if the US was planting weapons why wouldn't we have put a big ass 'MADE IN IRAN' stamp on them?

Your scenario seems likely to me.

In Israel they use the Hebrew calendar for all official government work, but all civil life uses the Gregorian calendar.

The military also uses the Gregorian calendar on armaments and so forth; however arms made for Israel usually have Hebrew characters on them.



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Of course the official Iranian reply to this was, just like Lazfx; "How can you trust a regime known for fabricating evidence".



Although I've had a deeper suspicion all along that Iran is sending arms, men, and money to Iraqis (simply because they have been caught doing this by Israel in the Palestinian and Lebanese areas). However, the USA will need more than just this if they want a just causa belli in my book.

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I'm holding my tongue on this one for a little while longer. I've got about a dozen or so websites and sources that have quite a bit to say about this story and "evidence" against Iran, but I want to wait a wee bit longer to hear both sides before saying anything further.

I'm pretty damn skeptical, suffice it to say, and this is most definitely NOT a job done by the Press alone (except writer Gordon from the NYTimes who broke this story last Saturday, and who's the very same fuck who helped Judy Miller with her WMD Iraq stories), as there is plenty of orchestration by this Adminstration as well. But I'll leave it at that for now and see how this completely unfolds.

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Originally posted by Yoepus

lol. Neo-condimist--I just noticed that. Hilarious!

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Originally posted by LazFX damn they should really ban you for just being ignorant

oh stfu lets not get into the banning talks you racist yank.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer oh stfu lets not get into the banning talks you racist yank.

No need to even go that far HT, looks like star-traveller is just as happy doing it himself...

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer oh stfu lets not get into the banning talks you racist yank.

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No Argumenta Ad Hominem: Hopefully, this is just temporary, but let's try to avoid any name-calling and/or personal attacks. We're here to discuss about politics, not to show how many insults we know in a determined language. At the slightest provocation, the necessary measures will be taken to solve the problem.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I hardly if ever acknowledge sarcasm from a person I dont know because I ran into serious problems on an undisclosed buying website before.

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Originally posted by Dopey www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthr...7&forumid=66&s=

+1, hardcore hurt my feelings


All I was doing Hardcore was pointing out the thread I started that actually showed pictures of the so called Iranian weapons. Supported this thread, and you attack me?? Why? You don't like me?? Well I am going to need some therapy for that, some body from Canada has an issue with me OMG!!

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