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Pointy
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Progrezz
if it sounds good, it's good


Thats probably because you fluked a mix in key.

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Pinokio
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Re: Re: Re: 6% rule in mixing in key...

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I see a lot of people say this, and I've definitely experienced similar phenomena - but it's very subjective. Sometimes it sounds fine with MT on and pitched way up, sometimes it sounds horrid - In my experience, you just have to check, track for track.


That's a better answer


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The biggest issue I've had with MT over 3% is that sometimes (for whatever reason) beatmatching/corrections seem to get harder.


When I have MT, sometimes the track seems to make sudden "jumps" out of a beat, and it gives you the idea of being out of time.

About the correction, I remember when I used Traktor DJ Studio, when I had MT on, the pitch bending was way more sensitive than when MT was off (I could notice this because it shows you a graphic of the pitch bend function).

I guess that the pitch bending is also more sensitive with MT on the CDJ's.


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This happens to me, and it sounds galloped but its actually perfeectly beatmatched, i noticed with MT some beats sound like a kick/clap at the same time...forcing me to flatten out highs and mids to compensate this...


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DJ Z
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i personally avoid master tempo because i know there are going to be "artifacts" present in the sound...

HOWEVER i almost always use it on vocal tracks or tracks that are very well-known where the crowd will know that the pitch is off...


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dj darroch
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I think it was a good feature to have on the cdj's 1000 but using it does indeed make the sound jitter.

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dj darroch
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Progrezz
as i said, it don't make a fuck if it's in key or not, if it sounds good, it's good


I'd love to hear your mixes then

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david.michael
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Location: Dayton, OH, USA

quote:
Originally posted by dj darroch
I'd love to hear your mixes then


"Sounding good" is subjective anyway. Some people like the clash in key as it provides a strange dissonance that they enjoy. So it's really a pointless argument.

It's equally dumb to say that there's no point in mixing harmonically though.

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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

Hey guys,

MT will distort the sound as it essentically is a form of time stretch.
Agreed with Z, it's far less noticable on vocal. The main problems come with the low frequencies, for some reason it doesn't handle them as well. MT can make a track playing by itself almost sound like a badly matched mix because the kick starts doubling up.

With regards to using it, I use it if I have to but most times I will just match tracks that work.

With regard to the +/-6% stuff, yes it works the same way both ways, but remember that it's a difference of 6% between each track that matters and not from the 0 point.

As for those who don't like harmonic mixing... fine, enjoy your DJing. It's worth giving it a go but no one will crucify your not doing it. Somepeople can do it by ear. It's just a question of having good music memory and an ability to remember the pitch of tracks, something which the majority of people can not do, but can develop to a greater or lesser degree.

Remember guys this is supposed to be fun, no point getting personal about it.

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