jesus. hasn't someone got their cranky pants on?

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Originally posted by RJT The control of force powers was nowhere near what it appears to be in the videos in Jedi Knight or Jedi Knight 2, and if you think it is you're even more fucking crackers than I had previously thought.

i already stated that the physics were "more interactive". obviously this is much more sophisticated. but its hardly revolutionary. you could still choke and lightning and grab items etc in JK. yes, this engine is certainly more powerful, but its also 6 years newer.

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Originally posted by RJT The interactive physics you pan so quickly has also never appeared in any game prior (preparing myself for the hilariously inevitable "but it was in Half Life 2" response).

i dont particularly rate HL2 so you can take that straw man argument and stick it with your shitty taste in music.

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Originally posted by RJT Add to that the fact that any Star Wars fan would find the story more compelling than any other addition to the Star Wars universe in the past few years, and all I see is you talking shit just to talk shit and drawing comparisons that couldn't be less apt.

hardly notable given the shit thats come from lucasarts of late. the fact that you havent played the game and youre already making arbitrary statements regarding the storyline is a bit of a stretch.

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Originally posted by RJT Your criticisms here are paper thin - but feel free to keep trying. It reminds me a bit of like when a child on the playground tries to tell you something sucks because their dad told them so. That just doesn't go so well when your father is an idiot.

oh bollocks, im not "criticising" shit. i just dont see how people are labelling it as "gonna be the best game ever". the physics are nice but the clips you posted did not inspire me.

also, 3rd person games are shit. designed for shitty gaming systems with shitty engines and played by shit people

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN hardly notable given the shit thats come from lucasarts of late. the fact that you havent played the game and youre already making arbitrary statements regarding the storyline is a bit of a stretch.

The storyline is well known and there are plenty of spoiler videos out there on which I can base my opinion. Perhaps you need to check the definition of the word arbitrary before batting it about as carelessly as you have here.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN oh bollocks, im not "criticising" shit. i just dont see how people are labelling it as "gonna be the best game ever".

Funny - I don't see anyone doing that. I found the videos exciting, sorry you don't. Saying it has potential based on dozens of videos (many of them gameplay videos) doesn't mean I'm saying it will undoubtedly be the greatest game of all time.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN also, 3rd person games are shit. designed for shitty gaming systems with shitty engines and played by shit people

Bitter Betty rides again. Par for the course.

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Originally posted by RJT The storyline is well known and there are plenty of spoiler videos out there on which I can base my opinion. Perhaps you need to check the definition of the word arbitrary before batting it about as carelessly as you have here.

fair, but again you do really need to sit down with a title to really appreciate its worth (or not).

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Originally posted by RJT Funny - I don't see anyone doing that. I found the videos exciting, sorry you don't. Saying it has potential based on dozens of videos (many of them gameplay videos) doesn't mean I'm saying it will undoubtedly be the greatest game of all time.

my mistake, i swear i saw it written, i just assumed it was in this thread. and yes, the title certainly has promise! but as an evolution of what we've seen before, not anything more than that.

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Originally posted by RJT Bitter Betty rides again. Par for the course.

hahaha. no more bitter than you are when you write about aspects of games that you dislike. never been a fan of 3rd person in an action title, though things like lightsaber fighting is better in 3rd person.

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The thing is, if you get excited about something that's not out yet, you're a "fanboy gimp basing your opinion on hype", but if you criticize something mindlessly you're just an "elitist hater."

You're damned if you do, damned if you don't - at the very least I like to think when I criticize aspects of gaming I don't like I either:

A. Have a fair number of examples of reasons for not liking something (i.e. the absolutely massive number of bog-standard FPS games people seem to like solely because they're FPS).

B. Up front about just not taking to a specific style of game (for me, RTS - I try, but I get incredibly bored).

In the event of A, at least you've thought about why it is you don't like something. In the event of B, everyone knows your opinion is irrelevant because you're judgment is never going to be based on somethings own merits - you're just going to think it's shit regardless of whether or not good reason for that exists.

Either way, I'm happy at least trying to remain consistent and discussing all things I enjoy (music, games, etc.) without compromising my own standards.

Fuck everyone and anyone who can't at least appreciate that, regardless of whether or not they ever agree with me on anything else at all.

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woohoo tangent!

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Relish it. Employment begins in less than a week.

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I'm not a big Star Wars guy, but the Jedi Knight games rocked my socks off. Hoping this here will be what I wanted Jedi Knight 3 to be.

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Originally posted by RJT ... Obviously you don't. And my guess is that you respond because regardless of how much you say you loathe me, you appreciate my responses here more than the vast majority of other peoples.

i never said i 'loathe you' - that is you putting words in my mouth, something you supposedly despise.

i just dislike your tendency to overreact to stupid stuff and call everyone an idiot|

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Originally posted by RJT Relish it. Employment begins in less than a week.

well, now i understand what's keeping you so grumpy! im not surprised. welcome to the end of fun, freedom and general good cheer.

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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 I'm not a big Star Wars guy, but the Jedi Knight games rocked my socks off. Hoping this here will be what I wanted Jedi Knight 3 to be.

Did u play the previous KOTOR games? I really liked the story behind them. Made the game so much more enjoyable than it already was.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well, now i understand what's keeping you so grumpy! im not surprised. welcome to the end of fun, freedom and general good cheer.

well he has a reason...so whats yours?

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Did u play the previous KOTOR games? I really liked the story behind them. Made the game so much more enjoyable than it already was.

I never did actually. Everyone tells me that they both kicked major ass. But I'm not really an RPG kinda guy, my attention span is too short and I can't dedicate myself to finish a long-ass 60 hour quest. I'm more about online multiplayer and short-and-sweet sessions.

But I can imagine that the storylines were epic, BioWare knows how to tell a good tale in a video game.

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you guys are both fucking losers.