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Originally posted by DJ Shibby This leaves what... spanking?

you can punch a girl several times without bruising her. Just try it out for yourself


But really abuse is something common regardless of what religion you follow. There will always be MALES who need to beat up their wifes. that is just life.

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Originally posted by Lilith Old testament bible was into the wife-whipping and child abuse too and not exactly a great measure of equality or humanitarian endorsements... heck, it got a lot worse when it reached europe. But there's an easy, modern day solution to this kind of behaviour, comes in high velocity hollowpoints at point blank and lawyers to sort out the mess after.

Heh,

This reminded me (along with the overall thread) of a quote from one of the crazy "quad preachers" that would stand in the middle of the Quad at the University when I was in school trying to use their hellfire and brimstone speeches to save the heathen students.

This one guy, 'Mad Max' as he was called by the students, was preaching one afternoon when my freinds were having lunch, and he said "We need to go back to the old days when you beat your wife with the bible!"

I just find this quote funny as hell.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby This leaves what... spanking?

LOL

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Not like where you beat the crap out of your wife and the children have to be witnesses of thier mother crying and bleeding right in front of them. That will totally fuck up the childs mind.

Maybe more fathers should beat their wives in front of their sons. At least that way, they'd learn how to do it in the respectful manner outlined in this video. Maybe as they get older, they help out as training for how to deal with their future punching bags.

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Are wives allowed to hit their husbands?

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Do0d, that isn't what i mean. I mean that husbands will beat thier wifes, not all. But if it is an option might as well use a guidebook.

so your solution for it occuring is to say 'as long as you follow these guidelines, you're fine in our books'?

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The logic of his statements seem to imply that Allah is a male. Unless that is the case, he would not condone wife beating.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Are wives allowed to hit their husbands?

They could but the thing is. That the majority of males are stronger physically than their woman. Which would result in the woman being beaten for her fultile attempt at controlling her husband.

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so your solution for it occuring is to say 'as long as you follow these guidelines, you're fine in our books'?

Iam not fine with any beatings on a women. But it will happen anyways. Muslims are family oriented people compare to Westerners. If they have a strong family network than the less likely there will be spousal abuse. But if you are going to beat your wife than there is no reason why they can't be civil about it??

It'll happen a lot less if you don't have community leaders and religious figures actually condoning this kind of behaviour to drag their collective asses into modern day society. Rather than behaving like the cult leaders who invented these kinds of religions back when people where clubbing each other over the head was slightly more common practice, rather than any kind of intelligent discussion.

Slapping each other about isn't a means of discipline, it's used on very unruly children, not adults with their full faculties and if we can't even resolve conflicts in a family home without some kind of physical violence then it doesn't say much for that kind of society and how it will respond to outside criticism even if its for their betterment.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid if you are going to beat your wife than there is no reason why they can't be civil about it

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Originally posted by Cyrus King i listen to trance becuase it is beautifully composed like a classical piece of music.... but with beats in it...

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Iam not fine with any beatings on a women. But it will happen anyways. Muslims are family oriented people compare to Westerners. If they have a strong family network than the less likely there will be spousal abuse. But if you are going to beat your wife than there is no reason why they can't be civil about it??

And why will beatings 'happen anyways'?
Here in the New World you try that and you get thrown in jail. IN JAIL.

If they're so family oriented, it shouldn't be happening in the first place!

And there is still no 'civil way to beat your wife'.

What about their kids then?
If it's written in a book can they cuff them across the room?
While I am on the side of a little discipline when it comes to kids because they need to learn and understand exactly what consequences are for their actions, I agree with Lilth:

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...not adults with their full faculties...

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