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Originally posted by BOOsTER hey, if it sounds good, it is good...

not necessarily. the benz & md track for example is really quiet but still seems to clip on the parts where it dips. so when i mix the track it's gonna be a bitch.

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Originally posted by BOOsTER and yeah I think I'd be able to properly master the tracks on my own, but then again, would be damn hard to handle with the ammount of music I purchase....

well i have no idea how much you know about mastering, but all i was saying is that it wouldn't make any sense to sell unmastered music.

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Originally posted by BOOsTER anyway...saying mastering is bad/good doesn't matter on seeing the waveform... /end

partly does, party doesn't. on most cases you can see it on the waveform already that it's badly mastered. both these tracks i posted were special cases where there is nothing wrong when listening to them, but they clearly have some bad mastering, because the waveforms are so fucked up that you can't properly adjust them to 0dB.

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many very well produced tracks have some nasty spikes...and no-one even bothers to do a thread about it...I dunno...

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Originally posted by BOOsTER many very well produced tracks have some nasty spikes...and no-one even bothers to do a thread about it...I dunno...

what's your point?

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uselessness of this thread in my eyes...




I mean...it's not that big of an issue if a red light flashes for half a second...as long as you're not clipping your signal all the time...

plus...there's this thing about dynamics I mean...not each and every song must have all the peaks at -0.1db...it's called dynamics...

I haven't heard any of the tracks you mentioned...but I think it just can't be that bad...and if you can't hear it, why to bother?

I mean if a track sounded good...why would I even bother looking at it's waveform?

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I'm with skip on this one. There are a few "bad apples" in the bunch I've downloaded over the past year or so. By bad, I don't mean unplayable/unlistenable. There's always the Wav option I guess.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman I'm with skip on this one. There are a few "bad apples" in the bunch I've downloaded over the past year or so. By bad, I don't mean unplayable/unlistenable. There's always the Wav option I guess.

I'm in no way saying there aren't some bad apples as you called the tracks...indeed there are tracks which have bad mastering...I'm just saying you can judge bad mastering only by looking at the waveform...and he said himself that some of the songs he mentioned as having "weird" waveforms do sound good...

so?

again...I'm not a pro...but this is mho...

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Originally posted by BOOsTER uselessness of this thread in my eyes... I mean...it's not that big of an issue if a red light flashes for half a second...as long as you're not clipping your signal all the time... plus...there's this thing about dynamics I mean...not each and every song must have all the peaks at -0.1db...it's called dynamics... I haven't heard any of the tracks you mentioned...but I think it just can't be that bad...and if you can't hear it, why to bother? I mean if a track sounded good...why would I even bother looking at it's waveform?

well for dustsucker for example if i'd put it as loud as the tune before it with just my ears the mixer would be going red for almost the entire track. and if i use the vu meter lights to adjust the volume of the track it's going to be very fucking quiet and thus will sound like crap when mixed.
this is a problem IMO. there has been something that has caused this and it seems like the problem is more common in tracks bought from beatport etc. isn't this a subject worth talking?
and i never said every peak should peak at -0,1dB or anything like that. but i really don't think there should be huge differences between peaks that sound exactly the same either (parts that really should be as loud as the others).
mostly i check the waveforms if the tunes sound quiet, because i hate cranking it up with quiet tunes when just listening to music and that's when i noticed this thing.
IMO it really shouldn't be that hard to master the tunes in such a way that every one of the loudest peaks would peak at 0dB. i can't imagine why anyone would want it some other way.

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Those weird dips, that looks like a massive low frequency wave affecting everything in its period haha

why dont yoiu give them a link to this thread [email protected]

They are cool guys sure they will do something.

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Originally posted by 996vtwin why dont yoiu give them a link to this thread [email protected] They are cool guys sure they will do something.

they simply will not...because it's the labels who do the mastering...


anyway, skip did you try normalizing? or slamming a limiter on it?

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Originally posted by BOOsTER they simply will not...because it's the labels who do the mastering... anyway, skip did you try normalizing? or slamming a limiter on it?

that's true about beatport. they wouldn't answer even if it was their problem. you have to get pissed off and email them at least 5 times to get any service.

i have pretty limited knowledge on stuff like this, that's why i'd like to have properly mastered stuff to begin with. i tried to normalize function in audacity and that doesn't seem to do anything and i didn't find anything but some "hard limiter" function which also did nothing.

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ah I see...I believe there are some tutorials about it in the production section...I'd help you, but I'm just leaving for today's school...

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