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Tried and tried some more

18 Year of playing the piano

5 years studying electroninc engineering

Countless hours of listening to EDM music

SOS magazine

Tranceaddict.com

Dance music manual by Rock Snoman

The trance experience by Fassbender

Buying expensive toys
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Time spent on EDM production: sparetime, when not drunk or hungover that is, the latest 4 or 5 years or so

Still not there yet, but it has been a fun journey so far

A professor ones told me that everything you want to do is 20% talent and 80% hard work.

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smoking a lot of weed

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What do you mean with Trial & error?

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Originally posted by trancedanne What do you mean with Trial & error?

Err... exactly what it says. Try everything you can until you succeed.

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Originally posted by jivamukti After having listened to a secret combination of trance records for 96 hours without interruption, I entered The Supreme State of Trance(tm) and Paul van Dyk appeared and initiated me into the secret magik of trance. Oh the ecstacy!

Ahaha...haha..ha....ha...

anyway...

I guess what I meant was for producers here to explain how they learned what they know so far, so some of the newer people that come here could see it takes practice, and patience and so on.

I'm not asking for my own personal knowledge other than an interest to see how some of you approach what it is you do and the learning process involved, meaning trial and error, tutorials, tons of practice, traditional musical lessons etc.

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Originally posted by camsr All my knowledge I got from this little book in the cracker jack box.

Including the pipe you smoke...Stay off the sillystick!!! lol

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i went and did a crash course on midi sequencing in 99. dj'd since 98. then i bought a decent computer with a good idea of what i wanted to produce.

since then i have taught myself cubase and whenever i need help i ask someone (usually a friend i have made through ta. or i post a question on here.)

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while i agree that playing around with stuff is a great way to learn...i don't think just pushing buttons is very helpful. you gotta have some kind of direction in what you're doing. a lot of people seem to have been doing this 5-6 + years...well honestly there are a lot of producers out there releasing stuff with a lot less experience than that. i think part of the just mess around until it sounds good mentality might have something to do with such a long time investment without much in return.

if you're serious about production...you need to approach it as such.


that being said...i think the most useful things for me have been research into sound and music fundamentals. i think its hard to actually go about producing without understanding what all is happening. the foundation of good songs is great sounds and synths...it'll make it a lot faster learning process if you take time and don't rush anything. also doing things without presets is very helpful because it just gives you that intuitive ability to create what you want.


anyway i'm rambling...


i had a time of about 4-5 years of just pushing buttons every once in a while...not taking it seriously at all...

bulk of what i've learned has been threw books and my own research in the last say 8 months...that combined with actual application in programs is what i have found the most helpful...

Many ways, as far as production is concerned. I learned by doing, from my producer friends, and of course from internet resources. The stickies here helped me a whole lot, especially the EQ tutorials. This forum has taught me so much in a short amount of time.

As far as musically, I've been a musician for 20+ yrs now. I taught myself to play guitar and keyboard. I learned mostly from books and guitar magazines. I learned a lot from playing with other musicians. The only formal training I've had is school band (trumpet and baritone) and a few guitar lessons.

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Mainly trial and error. Then, after many many errors, i asked questions if i still couldn't get it.

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For me, it began messing with other people's music. If you've ever tried to remix a track straight from the cd rip, you'll know that it takes alot of patience and tweaking to get it right. But this experience was invaluable. I kept notes (mental and written) of what I was doing. Then I applied it later. This is the "trial and error" part. If it works, keep it. If it doesn't, figure out what you can do to make it work

Having direction is important. An integral part of audio engineering is knowing in where you want to take the track and how you want it to sound. The best way is to build your track around a certain "something". It can be a synthline, kick drum, or just about anything that really holds your track together.

As mentioned previously many times over. Practice and patience pay off. Just stick with it and you'll find what works for you. Eventually, you'll find yourself using similar techniques and tools on most (if not all) your tracks. This is where one's signature sound comes from.

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