Registered: May 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, North Carolina
I kinda go with Snakebyte on this one. No offense, but if you can't sit down with an audio file and figure a melody out by ear, you should ask yourself how well you're writing down the notes in your head. Personally, I don't see much of a difference between the two.
Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
I kinda go with Snakebyte on this one. No offense, but if you can't sit down with an audio file and figure a melody out by ear, you should ask yourself how well you're writing down the notes in your head. Personally, I don't see much of a difference between the two.
So after 7 years of making music i should just hang up the boots ?
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe
Or take some ear training. It's a required part of most music exams but it'll help with this particular problem in many instances.
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Mar-13-2007 02:11
Subtle
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Location: Urban Shakedown
I will definitely look into doing that, either proffesionally or on my own, I just feel i might not be able to do it, cause i feel almost tonedeaf. :\
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe
That's exactly the point of doing it.
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Mar-13-2007 02:28
Subtle
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown
Alright, i hear ya, makes sense
As for the remixing, saying you shouldnt do remixes if u dont know to figure out the notes on your own sounds totally wrong to me.
Most of my production skills i have taught myself by remixing other tracks by MIDI, although, sure it hasnt helped my composing.
If you can't figure things out by ear, then you will have a much harder time producing. You really should take time to train your ears.
It's like writing a book and not being able to pick out the literary devices your using, but rather just writing random sentences and hoping they fit or at least adhere to a particular formula "scale in music terms I guess."
Many times there can be complicated melodies with loads of rich chords all wrapped in with effects, evolving sounds and delays going all over the place. Sure one can more or less always figure out how the thing is played, but even a trained ear can miss a note or two in a five-key chord or something. And such subtle nuances can actually be quite important. So i don't see anything wrong with wanting a midi.
Mar-13-2007 03:38
Snakebyte
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Malmoe, Sweden
quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
That's bullshit.
A midi helps and I always prefer one, but I can make my own.
Then again, you can come across a track where so much is going on that it's virtually impossible to get all the midi's correct.
It's not bullshit. It's like every other business. If you don't know how to buld a house, don't build one. Do you really think anyone would like you to remix their stuff if you can't even figure out the chords of the track? Come on. I don't want to sound mean or anything but that's the way it works. Im sorry to put you down by telling you the truth.
Edit: Here's a tip. If melodies and stuff are too complicated in the original track, make up new ones, after all it's a remix, right.
Anyway, that's not the point. You're discouraging people from doing things because they may not know how to do everything. That is bullshit. Everyone has their own method, their own style and their own preference.
Look at what SMC wrote above, you can get melodies where no one would stand a chance of getting it perfect and anyway, I would always choose to have a midi, than not have one. Midi over Wavs any day.
Mar-13-2007 09:21
Subtle
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown
quote:
Originally posted by Snakebyte
It's not bullshit. It's like every other business. If you don't know how to buld a house, don't build one. Do you really think anyone would like you to remix their stuff if you can't even figure out the chords of the track? Come on. I don't want to sound mean or anything but that's the way it works. Im sorry to put you down by telling you the truth.
What you are saying is based on pure logic, what is the point of building a house, when you can easily buy or rent one?
