I totally agree with you mate, Ive been DJ'ing for 4 years and havent hit the club scean for this very reason plus i don't really have good contacts, but i much rather play at house parties beacuse i have some DJ buddies that produce their own tunes that are brilliant or the host of the party hands you some unsigned or underground album and people get off on that. I also orginize my own house parties where i can play some tunes i made, nothing big though, but think of it as building a reputation so that you draw your own crowd and not wast time trying to earn the respect of another's. It takes alot of hard work but it's well worth the effort, plus you get that satisfaction that you accomplished somthing.

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Originally posted by discobiscuit Play at gay bars.... they like edm. most gay bars dont have a decent dj and you'll have no problem getting in. i've dj'd at many a gay bar ~ yeah its a little weird, but you get to play edm.

agree...a gig is a gig.

maybe you should move to Europe, perhaps Holland, or Ibiza. Then you could play out in trance clubs every day.

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Originally posted by Raveaddict19 I'm TOTALLY aware that im more fortunate than some. I mean I could live in the middle of Nebraska or something, with absolutley NOTHING going on.

Hey now, Nebraska actually has a decent EDM scene. Well, in Lincoln and Omaha at least. We just had Lisa Lashes here in Lincoln a few months ago.

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Haha my bad friend


I feel like an ass


I was just trying to throw out random middle of America thing...


Iowa perhaps?!?!? Northern Idaho!??!


Can't say I see Loco Dice touring there soon....

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if you are moving from Riverside to LA, get a gun
if you are moving from LA to riverside, keep the gun, but put on a Panic@the Disco shirt. If you ever get caught without your shirt, your gonna need that gun

Well i live in Mississauga Ontario Buddy Canada and yes dance music here is popular i got a few clubs that i play at here but recently my buddy got me a gig with a polish DJ in chicago IL dj narkski and im gona have a few gigs at these clubs cant wait im leaving on Monday and hiting Bermuda for vacation and work offcorse ,first to play at

SPLASH NIGHTCLUB
10 Bermudiana Road
Hamilton, HM11 Bermuda

then in begining of May I will be in Chicago IL at



Energy Thursday Nite Dance Club

(3815 West Lake Street / Near Franklin & Melrose Park)
Ages: 17 to Mingle - 21 & Up to Drink
Open until 5AM!
(Chicago, IL)


Vibe Nite Club (Lombard, IL) - Ages: 17 +
(100-40 Rowling Rd. / 1 block east of 355 on North Ave.)
Saturdays at 11:30 - 12:30am.


If you think of it its like a little tour,,lol..i got realtives in Chicago so i got a place to stay. I will be taking lots and lots of pics and movies because im going on a vacation of a life time for me.

im only gona be playing PROGRESSIVE HOUSE and TRANCE ..

so what i think your answer is?>...if you wanna play in clubs you need to suffer a bit and then travel...im not saying countries..(well unless you have conections and your kick ass DJ) but going from clubs to clubs.....and music like that is moslty played at after hours clubs..

like from 1am-5am where people are smashed and just enjoing the music.

just what i think..i could be wrong.


Thanks
Dj Preztige
Mike S

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It can be really tough.
The gay bar theory is actually quite sound, and contrary to popular belief can be a lot of fun although sometimes you will see things that are just plain weird, but you have to be able to laugh at it. You should also know that a lot of those guys are heavily connected and can get you a lot of gigs at parties and things.

The other thing that you have to accept these days is that you are not going to break into EDM in a big way unless you make it 100% your identity. By all means take the gigs you are getting at the moment as it's great experience, but you need to think about making productions as that is ulitimately what defines DJs today (with the very rare exception and those days are pretty much gone). If you want to take it further than just residencies that is.

Cheers
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Originally posted by Nemesis44 It can be really tough. The gay bar theory is actually quite sound, and contrary to popular belief can be a lot of fun although sometimes you will see things that are just plain weird, but you have to be able to laugh at it. You should also know that a lot of those guys are heavily connected and can get you a lot of gigs at parties and things. The other thing that you have to accept these days is that you are not going to break into EDM in a big way unless you make it 100% your identity. By all means take the gigs you are getting at the moment as it's great experience, but you need to think about making productions as that is ulitimately what defines DJs today (with the very rare exception and those days are pretty much gone). If you want to take it further than just residencies that is. Cheers Nem

+1

A buddy of mine played clubs for 10 years, spinning all sorts of cheese he didn't like. Then he got residency at a gay club and he was blown away with the support from the crowd, he even started to like the sh.. he hated before just 'cause the crowd response was that much more accepting, energetic. Also he always keeps telling me how happy he is playin' there because the crowd is so much more open to many other genres you could never spin at an "ordinary" club.

Djs are disposable these days and can't really afford to be particular about many things (like the styles they play) unless they're big time. If you're not going to do it someone else will, and they will do it for less.

Don't forget the sole purpose of a dj that's not a turntablist is to play what the people like. It's not really your call to not play it if you don't like it.

Frankly, I'm well aware as to what a DJ is and is supposed to do. Its not in a DJ's place to play whatever the hell he likes without any sort of regard to the people on the floor. Both obviously need eachother yes? DJ's are kind of dumb without people dancing\or atleast enjoying the music being played if it be elsewhere.

I've played weddings and various parties loooooong before the club circuit, so im very well aware as to what exactley my job is.

My bitching is about the fact that while there are obviously some of you in places with enjoyable scenes, how do those here who have no such scene keep spending gobs of money on vinly\mp3's and still have a love and a drive to keep playing.

If your all about to say, for the love, well thats nice and all. I love the music of course! But I must say, that its indeed very degrading on ones self when theres NO reception of it at all. I dont really know how to put it really.

And of course, Nem as always is spot on. From talking with guys like DJ Dan, Dave Aude and Mixin Marc (who SOMEHOW came through to a club here??? Very empty though...) its blatantly obvious that even if someone can DJ circles around you, if your the one producing AND have the right friends, theyre miles ahead of you.

That being said, and after reading all this, I suffice to say the best and only enjoyable option is to throw your own parties (that is if your not going to take the producing, selling of your name trying to get attention bit)

All I've ever wanted was a good time, with some good music, and an ok number of folks feeling the same thing.

Weddings, top 40, and fucking middle school dances all have their place in this world of course, and when it comes time to make money, I'll play them, but its a real damn shame that one of my favorite interests is the one that gets shit on in my town.

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
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if you are moving from Riverside to LA, get a gun
if you are moving from LA to riverside, keep the gun, but put on a Panic@the Disco shirt. If you ever get caught without your shirt, your gonna need that gun

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Originally posted by Raveaddict19 OK, i gotta be totally honest. Latley I've been so fucking down about this whole dance music thing. I know that theres lots of you who have residencies playing what you love but, while I do hold some residencies, they're all playing almost all top 40 and hip hop with a smidge of not so well taken top 40 remixes. That being said, I've had a few nice opprotunities to spin at some great parties playing house and what not. I've also opened for Ryan Elliot (Spectral Sound DJ) at a rad party in Detroit. But damnit, I can't say I'm really going anywhere with any of this, so It's definitley been easy to ask, why do I persist on buying tracks and what have you? Of course, I do still love the music, but im not looking for a "Do it for the music, do it for the love" type of answer. Fuck, I'm not even looking for success. I just want those of you to know, especially you European folks, that you are damn lucky to have the chance to have even ONE club or even a shitty BAR in your area playing accepted dance music. In my city? People literally throw alchohol if you play anything other than Satisfaction at ANY club here in Grand Rapids. I'm a multi instrumentalist with a main focus in jazz, so it doesnt really bust my bubble in a whole musical sense, but when it comes to electronica, How do those of you in these shitty non existent scenes keep some sort if inspiration and fire to do what you do!?!? Sorry for being a bitch

There are no places near me either...even though you didn't want it i'ma go with "Do it for the love of the music"

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Originally posted by teegee sometimes, i sit on my hand until its numb and then masturbate...i call that a stranger.

Well, the reason I continue to do anything (I bowl, play softball, i do research at school and I dj) is because I purely enjoy doing it. I put on a weekly online show and one week I had 2 listeners. I dind't care, I mainly do the show so that I have a 2 hour live set to listen to suring the week. It does get frustrating when no one cares what you are so intense about, but forget them squares, do it for you....and get a good paying job to supply it :P



and I sympathise with you. I went to Ferris State for 4 years, now that was feckin club isolation. There are 2 bars there..maybe 3 depending on your standards. But it was bad, I just kept going on frequent trips back to detroit for shows and such.


so id say get your inspiration from your journeys to places with a scene (chicago isn't that far either, just a train ride away). that should keep you going. Then hone your craft and produce music. Also when you play at your top 40s places, split up the night into 45 minute or 30 minute sets. We used to do this in detroit. play about 30 - 45 mins of house, then hip hop, then something else...so on so forth. So its not enough edm to get bitched about, but enough to catch the interest of a few people each time.




and now I am tryign to remember what I typed up there, but it took too long to type and now ive forgotten it. enjoy.