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Ministerio
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Originally posted by skip
wtf!? they will play fine on any cd-player if you burned them as audio cds and not as mp3 cds. there's no need to buy wavs because of that.


lmao....I was close to buying mysecond batch off beatport as wavs.

I guess Im not too technologically brilliant.

When I get my final CDJ 800 (MKI) decks...ill test them out in that..if they play them, then they should be fine i'm assuming.

But what I did exactly was went to Nero SmartStart>Make Audio CD

So then what's the point in buying wav's over 320 kb/s mp's if they can get converted to wav's in the end? Or is it just people who want top notch quality audiophile style?


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When Nero "converts" it to wav, it doesn't add anything to an mp3 file.. the quality will stay the same (320), its just the way that Nero writes the file to CD so a regular CD player can read it..

Most people will buy Wav's if they are playing out at clubs on high end loud systems. And others just like having the extra sound quality associated with wav's.

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quote:
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lmao....I was close to buying mysecond batch off beatport as wavs.

I guess Im not too technologically brilliant.

When I get my final CDJ 800 (MKI) decks...ill test them out in that..if they play them, then they should be fine i'm assuming.

But what I did exactly was went to Nero SmartStart>Make Audio CD

So then what's the point in buying wav's over 320 kb/s mp's if they can get converted to wav's in the end? Or is it just people who want top notch quality audiophile style?



well the wavs have better sound quality (although most people won't notice a difference). if you convert an mp3 to wav though, the sound quality won't improve, but it will still be the same as the mp3.


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Ministerio
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well the wavs have better sound quality (although most people won't notice a difference). if you convert an mp3 to wav though, the sound quality won't improve, but it will still be the same as the mp3.


Alright thanks mates! I know that you can't convert an mp3 into a wave and make it sound better. Just want to make sure that my cd's will be playable on all systems. I hope this is right, and I don't have to find out when I'm in a booth in front of 500 people.


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Lol.

The obvious thing would have been : burn 1 cd, check the cd. Burn cd 2, check cd 2. Etc.

That kinda avoids unwanted surprises instead of burning a gazillion cds.
You should consider yourself lucky since it didn't happen prior to a gig


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if you convert an mp3 to wav though, the sound quality won't improve, but it will still be the same as the mp3.


False. Whether it is wav or Mp3, it is compressed. the frequency range stops at 18 KHz,for a 320 mp3 ; a 128 drops at 12 KHz.

If you change the format from mp3 to wave, it will be reformated and recompressed. In other words, compressed twice. So the reformated wav cannot sound as good as an original wav file. Worse, since the source frequency range has been slashed from 18 KHz, the sound quality will drop.


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maybe the finalize cd after burn option wasn't checked.

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Mmanu
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maybe not.

read carefully.

Short version : the guy burned mp3 cds.
Pioneer 1000 MkII does not support mp3


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Ministerio
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Lol.

The obvious thing would have been : burn 1 cd, check the cd. Burn cd 2, check cd 2. Etc.

That kinda avoids unwanted surprises instead of burning a gazillion cds.
You should consider yourself lucky since it didn't happen prior to a gig


You dont understand..that is exactly what I did. But i have an 800 mk2, I can check all I want, doesnt mean it will work on OTHER cdjs..


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maybe the finalize cd after burn option wasn't checked.
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I had to do that?

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False. Whether it is wav or Mp3, it is compressed. the frequency range stops at 18 KHz,for a 320 mp3 ; a 128 drops at 12 KHz.

If you change the format from mp3 to wave, it will be reformated and recompressed. In other words, compressed twice. So the reformated wav cannot sound as good as an original wav file. Worse, since the source frequency range has been slashed from 18 KHz, the sound quality will drop.



I've always been told that wav files were lossless compression versus the lossy compression of mp3's, thus you would still get the same quality as the mp3 if you converted it to wav.

I could be wrong, but I've been covering this material in 2 different computer science classes right now.

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If you compress sound, you lose sound. Every time. No compromises.

If you transform an mp3 back to wave, you've already lost all frequencies above 18 KHz at best.

lossless compression does not exist.


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