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Originally posted by Subtle He didnt even feature a production of his own.

And you consider that a bad thing?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles And you consider that a bad thing?

First of all, as Ishkur said, he paints himself on the cover and take all honour for the music. And that without having his own productions on it.

And second of all, he is one of my favorite producers,i know he is hated and disliked for the use of co-producers and 2 dodgy albums, but I can ignore that, cause most of the tracks and remixes stamped with his name has given me much aural pleasure.

A more important mix from him would be "A Voyage Into Trance". This mix just contains overplayed tunes from the late 90s.

Sure if it was the first mix i ever heard, i would be overly excited as well.

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Originally posted by Subtle First of all, as Ishkur said, he paints himself on the cover and take all honour for the music. And that without having his own productions on it.

Well, yeah, that is stupid.

You know what I'd like to see? A mix compilation with photos of all the featured producers on the cover, and the DJ's face is nowhere to be found.

But that'll never happen.

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Originally posted by Subtle First of all, as Ishkur said, he paints himself on the cover and take all honour for the music. And that without having his own productions on it. And second of all, he is one of my favorite producers,i know he is hated and disliked for the use of co-producers and 2 dodgy albums, but I can ignore that, cause most of the tracks and remixes stamped with his name has given me much aural pleasure. A more important mix from him would be "A Voyage Into Trance". This mix just contains overplayed tunes from the late 90s. Sure if it was the first mix i ever heard, i would be overly excited as well.

Well if you want to get technical, there is no Slacker And Original Vocal Mix of Someone, he had to combine them in studio.

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Originally posted by Perfecto Fluoro Well if you want to get technical, there is no Slacker And Original Vocal Mix of Someone, he had to combine them in studio.

Nice, everything that brings Oakie in a better light is something i like to hear.

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Originally posted by Subtle Nice, everything that brings Oakie in a better light is something i like to hear.

Oakenfold should be shunned now like the bastard child he is.

He is like the upstanding guy, but really he stabs you in the back in the end.

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit i'm pretty sure he made them classics by discovering them

No, they were already famous hits and had been playing in clubland for awhile.

Really, the one glorious thing that Tranceport did was marketing. It was the first exposure for many, many people. It was the gateway drug. The beginner's primer. The first lesson. The registration signup sheet to a new world.

The problem wasn't that this mix attracted a new generation of noobs....it's that the noobs came in with the misunderstanding that it was Oakenfold they were listening to, not trance

And that is a very important distinction.

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Originally posted by Ishkur No, they were already famous hits and had been playing in clubland for awhile. Really, the one glorious thing that Tranceport did was marketing. It was the first exposure for many, many people. It was the gateway drug. The beginner's primer. The first lesson. The registration signup sheet to a new world. The problem wasn't that this mix attracted a new generation of noobs....it's that the noobs came in with the misunderstanding that it was Oakenfold they were listening to, not trance And that is a very important distinction.

Totally understand what you say, but isnt it possible, thats the only way to get them to listen to music ?

I mean, most popular music is based on image and persons, like we see in the pop industry.

Im only saying, that marketing it that way was the only way for people who didnt understand the music, to actually go grab it and listen to it, instead of the need to discovering with pale covers.

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Originally posted by Subtle Totally understand what you say, but isnt it possible, thats the only way to get them to listen to music ? I mean, most popular music is based on image and persons, like we see in the pop industry. Im only saying, that marketing it that way was the only way for people who didnt understand the music, to actually go grab it and listen to it, instead of the need to discovering with pale covers.

Yea, but that inspires DJ worship. DJ's should not be worshiped.

I'd rather have no one listen to trance at all then have the DJ's be the ones taking all the credit.

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Totally understand what you say, but isnt it possible, thats the only way to get them to listen to music ?

No.

A better way to get someone into electronic music, is to bring them to a ridiculous party where they hear sounds and see sights that they never dreamed existed, so intense they just get sucked into it.

When DJs pander to a broader audience to inspire "listenership", especially, but not limited to marketing themselves, that degrades the whole culture.


Dance music is dance music not 'listening music'.

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whenever i get out to a big dj event, what I witness is not mass dancing, but mass listening, just another concert you know? It's just a bunch of people who don't even think about dancing who bring their digital cameras, cell phones, armin shirts, and stand there and pump their arms when the dj tells them to. And I think this is directly related to things like compilations that market DJ identities rather than push a new sound, and radio shows that do the same.

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I see what your saying, but the fact remains.. the labels has to do what they need to market their music to the most people as possible, sure, DJ Worshiping is stupid.. but unfortunately, its the way it is.. and has to be for the labels to milk out what they can.

But mixes with just artwork and no DJ pictures is more class, and there used to be alot of those.

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