+1 Orko

i always enjoyd when the crowd screams and clap their hands.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles No. I said this: "But they should have enough good tunes..."

i know you did, but what you really meant was 'tunes the dj likes', as they have subjective taste like anyone else. in order to want to get that many new tunes on a regular basis they'd have to be really easily pleased by what they hear..

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Yeah, unless your passion was something like, oh I don't know, discovering more great music every day and introducing it to other people. But what the hell kind of person has a passion like that? Oh yeah: DJs.

you're still missing my point.. you seem to be living in an idealistic imaginary world where an infinite amount of good quality music gets released every day. the plain truth is that it doesn't, and a dj with high standards who wishes to single out the cream of the crop is invariably going to have a pretty limited selection if they restrict themselves to only playing brand new music & never playing the same track twice (they'd also be pretty fucking pretentious too)

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Originally posted by isoterra i know you did, but what you really meant was 'tunes the dj likes', as they have subjective taste like anyone else. in order to want to get that many new tunes on a regular basis they'd have to be really easily pleased by what they hear..

Why? They have years of music to comb through.

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you're still missing my point.. you seem to be living in an idealistic imaginary world where an infinite amount of good quality music gets released every day.

The solution to this is simple: stop playing just "new releases." If a DJ does this, suddenly he will find that the number of quality tracks available to him increases quite a bit.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles That's what a DJ is supposed to do: find new good music that you might not otherwise hear and introduce it to you in a mix.

Music can be "new" to both a DJ and his audience without having just been released.

fair enough. it was used pretty ambiguously

Anyway, the main point is that DJs, if they want to be interesting, should not hammer the same tracks over and over again like little "hit robots."

It baffles me that people idolize them for doing something so absurdly simple and mindless.

Yeah! Some great discussion in here, good job guys!

I just think the frequency of some of these shows need to be cut back. If they are going to stick to one genre its just too hard to find new tracks all the time.

Take Pete Tong for example. The Essential Selection has been running strong for 14 years now? He does it by playing stuff from all over the place, its almost all dance, but the sub-genres change from song to song. He plays what he thinks is hot, whether its trance, house, or even hip hop.

Also, these shows with 30 minute guest mixes, what the hell is 30min? It's usually just a showcase for that DJ to play their own tracks, or tracks from their labels. I think a DJ needs at least 1 full hour to show what they would bring to table if you went to see them.

yeah. i don't think the problem is too many radio shows, i think it's too many radio shows playing the same god damn tracks. every show should be completely different, not just carbon copies of ASOT.

hopefully soon i'll get a radio show, not because i feel i deserve one, but just because i'd actually play a style you won't be able to find much other places (florida breaks mixed with dark/euphoric trance and even some hard house). you know, anything that's NOT mcprog or progpsy or electro house...

at least one hour that's why the only radio show i pretty much listen to is the bbc essential mix

Returning to the first post. I see what you mean, is true that these radio shows not often reflect what these djs than turnsout to spin in the clubs, but radio shows are different than clubs set so I personally can accept that. What I can't accept is radio sets that are just a bunch of songs put togheter to present the newest release without any kind of flow or thought behind them, like ASOT and TATW, that even worse are also just a collection of the usually most commercial and predictable songs coming out on the market. Live sets are obviously much more instinctive, but I really cannot accept radio shows without any kind of programming behind them.
So imho the question is not to stop the radio shows, but to boycott the one of really low quality and try to promote the one that emerge qualitywise. I personally really like the shows of John "OO" Fleming (monthly), Airwave (monthly) and Under Sun (weekly), it's quiet amazing to think that these guys are spinning the same music genre as Asot and Tatw, because the quality difference is amazing in my opionion.