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Originally posted by cassa.de.x Right now with my 800s, I'm pitch-bending every 5-10 seconds during a transition, to keep the tracks in line. How much more time will 0.02 pitch control buy me?

i can mix with out touching my 800...

and trust me im NOT a really good mixer.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

it usually takes 30s or so for the tracks to drift on my cdj-100s'. but some tracks do drift faster though and some don't. but even with 0.1% pitch resolution i don't have to adjust every 5 to 10s.

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Originally posted by cassa.de.x A CDJ-800 doesn't have a small +/-6% range (and consequently doesn't support 0.02% increments). Only a 1000 has +/-6%.

The CDJ 200 has +/-6% too.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 The CDJ 200 has +/-6% too.

You're right.

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Personally, I use 10% pitch on my 1000's and can hold the beat for ages, and if it is a track which drifts everyone now and then, I'll correct it slightly on every 8th or 16th bar.

Here's the maths... I can't be arsed to go through all the numbers again, but I have worked it out before and worst-case scenario, as accuarately as possible matched tracks will take about 10 seconds to 'noticeably' (worked out by layering & staggering kick sounds to work out at what point they no longer sound like a single kick) go out of time using 0.1% increments, 20 seconds using 0.05% increments and 50 seconds using .05% increments.

The average times it'll take to go out of time are double the above (so 20 seconds with 0.1% increments, etc)

So yes, if you're having to adjust more often than about every 20 seconds on a CDJ800 then you probably either don't have it down as accurately as you could (easiest way to tell this is if you always find yourself adjusting it in the same direction - i.e. if you're always slowing it down and you have to adjust it that often then the track's probably an increment or two too fast), or your ears are ultra sensitive to changes, or (more likely) your ears THINK they're ultra sensitive and you keep thinking it's going slightly out when as far as everyone else is concerned it's absolutely spot on - I think I'm probably guilty of this last one from time to time!

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Originally posted by Stu Cox your ears THINK they're ultra sensitive and you keep thinking it's going slightly out when as far as everyone else is concerned it's absolutely spot on - I think I'm probably guilty of this last one from time to time!

This is my main problem, I think that it is going out of time and then end up knocking it completely out of time when I try to 'correct' it.

There's been a few times when I've dj'd with someone and they've said "what you doing, that was bang on".

This usually happens after being on the decks for a while and I think it may be caused by ear fatigue.

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Originally posted by cassa.de.x I'm using Beatport 320kbps mp3s. (And I think you mean .1 increments, not .01.) If you can keep near-perfect sync between 200s for over a minute, then I don't know what's going on with my DJ rig...

you're right actually i mean .05 for 10% you get the point though.

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You ever listen to one of your recorded mixes, and you are thinking "damn the beats are flanging a bit there, I could've done that better".




...And then you realize that it's part of the track and you weren't even mixing...

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Originally posted by agentdansmith This is my main problem, I think that it is going out of time and then end up knocking it completely out of time when I try to 'correct' it. There's been a few times when I've dj'd with someone and they've said "what you doing, that was bang on". This usually happens after being on the decks for a while and I think it may be caused by ear fatigue.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 You ever listen to one of your recorded mixes, and you are thinking "damn the beats are flanging a bit there, I could've done that better". ...And then you realize that it's part of the track and you weren't even mixing...

Anyone else ever feel that we DJs really aren't the brightest of characters?

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Or maybe we are just too damn bright and wind up being perfectionists?

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Originally posted by Stu Cox Anyone else ever feel that we DJs really aren't the brightest of characters?