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asdfg
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3rd Signal
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quote:
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that supersaw sounds like shit


It's nice to be talking... Start using synths and quit bullshiting my head ok prick?

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WOW! Very nice lead... Well not really, I don't see what you found in your lead since it got hardly any crispiness only an envlope with a bit more decay.


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Old Post Apr-08-2007 18:43  Israel
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DJREMIDI
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My turn!

First of all, Pro-53 is not a very good synth for SuperSaw sounds because once you enable unison your polyphony is limited to 1 voice, thus, no chords. So, if you want to play chords you will need a synth that is equipped with a polyphonic unison or a synth that has a SuperSaw (clone) oscillator (like z3ta). If you are limited to just using Pro-53 then you can either use just the two Saw oscillators with some chorus, but the sound will not be as thick and heavy, or you can enable unison and create a very thick lead sound, but only be limited to playing monophonic melodies. That being said, here's what I did with two oscillators and no unison effect (delay is external since I'm using built-in delay effect for chorus). No EQ or other effects were used:

Pro-53 Lead

EDIT:

Here's the same sound with some EQ and reverb:

Pro-53 Lead EQ


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Eldritch
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Registered: Nov 2005
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quote:
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My turn!

First of all, Pro-53 is not a very good synth for SuperSaw sounds because once you enable unison your polyphony is limited to 1 voice, thus, no chords. So, if you want to play chords you will need a synth that is equipped with a polyphonic unison or a synth that has a SuperSaw (clone) oscillator (like z3ta). If you are limited to just using Pro-53 then you can either use just the two Saw oscillators with some chorus, but the sound will not be as thick and heavy, or you can enable unison and create a very thick lead sound, but only be limited to playing monophonic melodies. That being said, here's what I did with two oscillators and no unison effect (delay is external since I'm using built-in delay effect for chorus). No EQ or other effects were used:

Pro-53 Lead

EDIT:

Here's the same sound with some EQ and reverb:

Pro-53 Lead EQ


Agreed, Pro53 is not suitable for supersaws. Good sound with only 2 oscs. Although you can tell that there's chorus on it.

One of the better synths for supersaws is Synth1. It has both a supersaw osc and unison (It's polyphonic!). Sadly the oscillator doesn't have the same sound as the JP, but it can be tweaked with EQ to sound really close.
I will post some patches when I get home.

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DeZmA
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quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
Agreed, Pro53 is not suitable for supersaws. Good sound with only 2 oscs. Although you can tell that there's chorus on it.

One of the better synths for supersaws is Synth1. It has both a supersaw osc and unison (It's polyphonic!). Sadly the oscillator doesn't have the same sound as the JP, but it can be tweaked with EQ to sound really close.
I will post some patches when I get home.


Agreed, synth1 can make a convincing supersaw.
There's some synth1 patches on my homepage, including supersaws. www.dezma.be


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3rd Signal
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quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch
Agreed, Pro53 is not suitable for supersaws. Good sound with only 2 oscs. Although you can tell that there's chorus on it.

One of the better synths for supersaws is Synth1. It has both a supersaw osc and unison (It's polyphonic!). Sadly the oscillator doesn't have the same sound as the JP, but it can be tweaked with EQ to sound really close.
I will post some patches when I get home.


I know that's why I used 3 instances with 10 voices each, so I'd get a similer sound, not a full emu but something reminding.
I rather make supersaws with Zeta, Reaktor, Vaz, Moog, etc or just use my JP8080.


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iast
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I make my supersaws by layering Korg Legacy, Z3TA, and V-Station. It's computer heavy but it sounds nice.

I tried pro 53 at a friend's place. It's not very good as it was said before you can't do chords on it.

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rubez
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i got synth1 installed but how do u get the cygnus x superstring effect? i got the 15 dezma soundbanks but not the ones that came with it, i tried moving them to a differnt folder but cant get them. anyway what prestet should i use and what settings on synth1

could someone take a screenshot of their synth1 gui with all the settings correct for this effect and upload or send it? thanks

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DeZmA
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what do you mean? The standard patches are in the first bank, you just install my patches in the soundbank directory you want like soundbank01 dir. The pad should be kinda close to the cygnus x sound with some envelope tweaking.


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what is the pad called?

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Eldritch
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Here's the Synth1 patch I promised to upload.

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You could put some additional VST EQ on it to make the high freqs hiss more.

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quote:
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Here's the Synth1 patch I promised to upload.

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You could put some additional VST EQ on it to make the high freqs hiss more.


try to download it its all binary code not a downloadable preset

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