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peace n trance
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it's so shocking... u just don't know where it could happen. i think about that at my school sometimes, because there just aren't really precautions that are reasonable that can be taken for that sort of thing. anyone who wants to do something of this sort certainly has the ability to, short of places like airports and courthouses and what not. its horrible to think that you have to accept things like this as a common threat, but really, imagine being an innocent young person in iraq right now, where this sort of behavior isn't just a threat but a way of life. humanity is so fucked

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I wanna know why the cops were hiding behind trees outside....If I was a cop and I knew students were getting shot inside the school I sure as hell would not be hiding behind a fucking tree.


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I wanna know why the cops were hiding behind trees outside....If I was a cop and I knew students were getting shot inside the school I sure as hell would not be hiding behind a fucking tree.


tactical maneuvers?

hunting style?


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070416...a_tech_shooting

Gunman kills 21 on Virginia Tech campus By SUE LINDSEY, Associated Press Writer
5 minutes ago



BLACKSBURG, Va. - A gunman opened fire in a dorm and classroom at Virginia Tech on Monday, killing at least 21 people in the deadliest campus massacre in U.S. history. The gunman was killed, bringing to death toll to 22, but it was unclear if he was shot by police or took his own life.

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"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said Virginia Tech president Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."

The name of the gunman was not immediately released, and investigators offered no motive for the attack. It was not immediately known if the gunman was a student.

FBI spokesman Richard Kolko in Washington said there was no immediate evidence to suggest it was a terrorist attack, "but all avenues will be explored."

The shootings spread panic and confusion on campus, with witnesses reporting students jumping out the windows of a classroom building to escape the gunfire.

The bloodbath took place at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, beginning at about 7:15 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston, a coed dormitory that houses 895 people, and continuing about two hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building about 2,000 feet away, authorities said.

Police said they were still investigating the shooting at the dorm when they got word of gunfire at the classroom building.

After the first shots were fired, students were warned to stay indoors and away from the windows. But some students said they thought the precautions had been lifted by the time the second burst of gunfire was heard.

Some of the dead were students. One student was killed in the dorm, and the others were killed in the classroom, Virginia Tech Police Chief W.R. Flinchum.

Up until Monday, the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history was a rampage that took place in 1966 at the University of Texas at Austin, where Charles Whitman climbed the clock tower and opened fire with a rifle from the 28th-floor observation deck. He killed 16 people before he was shot to death by police.

The massacre Monday took place almost eight years to the day after the Columbine High bloodbath near Littleton, Colo. On April 20, 1999, two teenagers killed 12 fellow students and a teacher before taking their own lives.

The deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was in Killeen, Texas, in 1991, when George Hennard drove his pickup into a Luby's Cafeteria and shot 23 people to death, then himself.

Founded in 1872, Virginia Tech is nestled in the Blue Ridge Mountains of southwestern Virginia, about 160 miles west of Richmond. With more than 25,000 full-time students, it has the state's largest full-time student population. The school is best known for its engineering school and its powerhouse football team.

The rampage took place on a brisk spring day, with snow flurries swirling around the campus, which is centered around the Drill Field, a grassy field where military cadets — who now represent a fraction of the student body — once practiced. The dorm and the classroom building are on opposites sides of the Drill Field.

A gasp could be heard at a campus news conference when the police chief said at least 20 people had been killed. Previously, only one person was thought to have been killed.

Investigators from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began marking and recovering the large number of shell casings and will trace the weapon used, according to an ATF official who spoke on condition of anonymity because local authorities are leading the investigation.

A White House spokesman said President Bush was horrified by the rampage and offered his prayers to the victims and the people of Virginia.

"The president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms, but that all laws must be followed," spokeswoman Dana Perino said

After the shootings, all entrances to the campus were closed, and classes were canceled through Tuesday. The university set up a meeting place for families to reunite with their children. It also made counselors available and planned an assembly for Tuesday at the basketball arena.

After the shooting began, students were told to stay inside away from the windows.

Aimee Kanode, a freshman from Martinsville, said the shooting happened on the fourth floor of West Ambler Johnston dormitory, one floor above her room. Kanode's resident assistant knocked on her door about 8 a.m. to notify students to stay put.

"They had us under lockdown," Kanode said. "They temporarily lifted the lockdown, the gunman shot again."

"We're all locked in our dorms surfing the Internet trying to figure out what's going on," Kanode said.

Maurice Hiller, 21, mechanical engineering student from Richmond, saw police and SWAT tem members with guns drawn going toward Norris Hall.

"This is something just totally beyond anybody's expectations," he said.

Police said there had been bomb threats on campus over the past two weeks by authorities but said they have not determined a link to the shootings.

It was second time in less than a year that the campus was closed because of a shooting.

Last August, the opening day of classes was canceled and the campus closed when an escaped jail inmate allegedly killed a hospital guard off campus and fled to the Tech area. A sheriff's deputy involved in the manhunt was killed on a trail just off campus. The accused gunman, William Morva, faces capital murder charges.


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"The president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms, but that all laws must be followed," spokeswoman Dana Perino said


i don't believe we deserve this right in 2007

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Its now up to 32 dead. I just checked like 2 seconds ago and it was 31, now 32. My high school friend went to Tech along with her 2 bothers and I partied down there with them a few times. Such an amazing campus but also a great and friendly student body. It is a shame to see this happen, lets hope the number doesn't go up anymore.


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LuNaSeA
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gunman is dead. he was reported to be an asian guy in his 20s wearing a maroon hat.


http://www.tv3.co.nz/Gunmangoesonwo...13/Default.aspx


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"The president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms, but that all laws must be followed," spokeswoman Dana Perino said

How appropriate of the president to throw his personal opinion about guns in a speech about a tragedy involving guns.

anyway, that right is a misreading of the constitution, and the supreme court, when it becomes more liberal, needs to address the constitutionality of the right to guns.

There's a reason shit like this doesn't happen in places like the UK.

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How appropriate of the president to throw his personal opinion about guns in a speech about a tragedy involving guns.

anyway, that right is a misreading of the constitution, and the supreme court, when it becomes more liberal, needs to address the constitutionality of the right to guns.

There's a reason shit like this doesn't happen in places like the UK.


we dont carry guns,,,and dont need to...we settle our differences with fists....However this is a huge tragedy and i cant think of anything else right now other than placing my thoughts with the families of the victims....


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There's a reason shit like this doesn't happen in places like the UK.

You've gotta be kidding...

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we dont carry guns,,,and dont need to...we settle our differences with fists....However this is a huge tragedy and i cant think of anything else right now other than placing my thoughts with the families of the victims....


it's true. you're much more likely to get shot in NY than you are in London but more likely to get stabbed by a 3 inch knife in London than NY... so i think i know which one i'd pick. even something like 98% of the bobbies don't carry guns, just batons. nonetheless, england in general has had a lot of problems with vicious stabbings in schools with everything from pens to razorblades to pocket knives.


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Holy shit, this is just insane. The video that they showed and you can hear the shots in the backgrounds, those bullets are hitting somebody and taking their life. This is really insane and scary.


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