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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On No more wrong than severing their foreskin or raising them to believe that their lives will make sense one day if they put their faith in Jesus.

Beat me to it, although it's certainly not restricted Christian/Abrahamic cultures. There's no way you could claim it's wrong if you support circumcision, for example.

In my case, however, I wouldn't encourage it because the child should be able to choose what they want to have done on their body.

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Originally posted by jennypie How is it wrong, you fools? It's a big part of some cultures.

If it's a cultural thing that's one thing, but if some dumb bitch decides one day that her baby would look cool with barbed wire around it's arm or something dumb, that's what's messed up.

And it's far worse than piercings, piercings you can just take out and they'll heal over.

Circumcision isn't a big deal either imo, it hardly makes any difference :/ I'd never get my kid circumcised, but it's not like it's something they'll hate you for when they get older.

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Originally posted by jennypie How is it wrong, you fools? It's a big part of some cultures.

What does that matter? Female genital mutilation is also a big part of some cultures. A violation of rights is still a violation of rights even if lots of people engage in it.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles What does that matter? Female genital mutilation is also a big part of some cultures. A violation of rights is still a violation of rights even if lots of people engage in it.

Oh god.

if jenny says its not wrong then it must me ok.

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Originally posted by jennypie Oh god.

Very cogent argument!

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Originally posted by igottaknow if jenny says its not wrong then it must me ok.

Actually that's not what I said.

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Originally posted by jennypie Actually that's not what I said.

do you ever use rolleyes in your essays?

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Originally posted by Lira Beat me to it, although it's certainly not restricted Christian/Abrahamic cultures. There's no way you could claim it's wrong if you support circumcision, for example.

One might point out that the product of circumcision is not outwardly visible in most normal activities for the rest of your life

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also, as for the "it's a big part of some cultures" claim, that's worthless. Treating women worse than animals and giving them no rights to do anything, whatsoever, and throwing them in jail when they get gang raped, since they were in the presence of other men is also a part of other cultures. That doesn't make it right.

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A list of some practices that have been important to various cultures:

Foot binding, fattening rooms, seppuku, sati, slavery, abandonment of deformed infants, social ostracism (or stoning) for adultery and fornication, caste systems, forced religious conversion, enforced standards of "modest dress," keeping women uneducated, beating children to get them to behave.

Maybe you all can think of some others, too.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous One might point out that the product of circumcision is not outwardly visible in most normal activities for the rest of your life

Yes, but infant circumcision still means inflicting a significant amount of pain on a non-consenting person for no good reason.