sweet.. thanks!

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Originally posted by JohnSmith Yeah, i guess you are right. i had left out allen and heath, and Rane, because of the high prices. for those 2, there is this one here: Xone32 damn, not that it matters, but that is one UGLY mixer. and at $800.. is it worth it? I can almost get the DJM500 for that. are the VCF filters cooler than all the stuff on the DJM500? The vestax 275 is a lot cheaper $489.99 and the Rane ones Rane MP44 too expensive. and it's huge.. Rane MP22z says it's 6 channels.. but i only see 2 volume faders. i want at least 3 at the same time. i think it's best to leave the Rane's to the oakies of this world.

rane and allen and heath are better then any vestax or pioneer

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Originally posted by JohnSmith Thanks DJTJ.. the vestax sounds better, will last longer, and is cheaper than the pioneers? in that case, there is no contest. I really respect your opinion, i have been lurking for awhile around here, and you are always the one to bring in the no nonsense straight answers.. thanks for being a great resource to people around here.

Hey, thanks man, that's some serious respect! You're right, I do try to cut out the bullshit, if someone asks me a question I try to give them a decent answer... I just like to think that people will do the same for me.

I do think the PCV-275 will be the right mixer for you. Vestax mixers are good buid quality and axcellent sound quality. A lot of people rave on about the Pioneers, personally I think they are just average. Their sound quality isn't up to much when you compare it to the Vestax, and I have heard all sorts of horror stories about the build quality. The sampler and effects section is very cheap and nasty, and thrown together almost as an afterthought. They would have been far better off saving the money on this and the beat counters, and using higher quality components to get better sound quality. Although, I have to say I do like the layout on them, especially the nice long VU meter for each channel.

Anyway, most stores will do a money back guarantee option, so if you don't like the mixer you do eventually decide on, you can take it back and get a different one instead.

Yup, i give respect where it's due.

I have pretty much decided on the vestax 275, after hearing enough crap about the pioneers. half the price too.

the Xone32 is cool too.. if only it weren't so ugly.

and the channel lights.. 4 leds? how the heck can i monitor with that? stupid.. i'd like to hear those VCFs before i buy it too.

i own a Xone: 32 and i have absolutely no regrets about this mixer

its a quality mixer and i chose it over the pioneer because of the sound quality

and the vcf filters are an added bonus.
can't really explain what they sound like though
it also has the lfo thingy which basically just times the rate of the vcf at however fast you tap the red button

i don't really have time to get in depth into it because im supposed to be doing my isu right now but honestly, you keep saying that its such an ugly mixer
first of all i don't think it looks that bad, and if you think about it all mixers are ugly as hell
and i mean who gives a shit what it looks like? its not a fashion show and sound quality isn't effected by attractiveness

also i believe the xone: 32 is cheaper than the djm 600

oh and another great feature is the vertically placed circuit boards

oh and what arey ou talking about in reference to the channel lights?

Xone 32 ugly? if u take a look at the best mixers around (xone 464/62, rane mp2016 etc) they're all ugly. that's b'cos the spend time and money on what's underneath rather the making them look fancy like the cheap mixers which sound awful and low build quality like the numarks, geminis and citronics.

Yeah, i know, i'm just joking about it being ugly.. i think the DJM600 is a cool looking mixer actually..

but anyway, it isn't a fashion show, that stuff really doesn't matter.

as for the channel lights, i mean these:



there is only 4 lights there, compared to the pioneers 16 or so i think. how can you tell if the meters are bouncing at the right place with such a small area?

as for vertically mounted circuit boards.. that just means if you spill something, it will dry out quicker right? well, i don't plan on spilling anything on it.. but i suppose it's good to be prepared.

umm, someone said the sound quality of numarks suck? u gotta get yr shit straight man... i've got a numark 1885x ppd, and the sound quality is amazing!! its way better than my other mixer, the roland dj-1000... WAY BETTER, like no comparison at all

yeah, like i said, the higher end Numark and Gemini aren't bad..

the 1185 is a little more than i am looking for, and it's pretty expensive too. i'm sure it sounds great though.. as good as a comparably priced Rane or Allen and Heath? probably not.

as far as the stanton RM3S, i'll comment since i own one.

the channel (level) faders are not like the scratch mixer - they have a gradual curve up until about number 8 or so when it comes on strong.

also unlike the stanton scratch mixers, the crossfader curve on the rm3s is more gradual. there is a dip in the center like most dance/club mixes, and the crossfade is smooth and quite liquid.

the eq's leave a little to be desired, but the kill switches are good for what they are (kill switches arent much use to trance, but they do work well on the box)

the cue pan fader is kinda handy, and the price on the box is quite good (got mine for $205, shipped, new)

-nate

thanks!

i still don't think i will get a stanton though, the vestax seems to be the best choice.