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dj dimwit
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Woerden, Netherlands

O well......sorry. I didn't know English was a rule here
I think it should be Dutch...

Yup, I have msn : [email protected]
Thanx for the help so far


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Old Post Apr-15-2002 13:39  Netherlands
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Joi Lamusic
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Helsinki

Mantisnl, could U send those presets/FLPs to me too?

[email protected]

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mantisnl
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: holland

ok.. they r sent..

ok.. 2 other ppl that want those presets: plz ask the above persons 2 send them 2 ya, coz i don`t like 2 send them over and over again.. i hope u`ll understand

greetz,

DJ Mantis


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Taz
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: what's the difference

There's more to that sound than sawtooths (or is it sawteeth?); try getting your hands on a JunoX2 plugin. Or layer more than one 3osc, filter each differently and add effects to taste. Bandpass might help to give it that horn-ish "blatt" sound.

ANYBODY - What's the name of the second track? Sounds amazing!
Thanx in advance.

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cyrus2k2
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Ruhrpott

it's a short sample of 'rank 1 - awakening'

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Taz
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: what's the difference

Thanks!

BTW here's my own little approximation of the sound and some of the techniques described, if you want to check it out:

http://members.tripod.com/~music66/davesong.flp

Just right-click on it and change the extension from .htm to .flp.

I don't really know the song, so the downbeat's probably in the wrong place. But you'll get the picture. It's all done with 3osc's and stock effects. Let me know if it loads properly!

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cyrus2k2
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Ruhrpott

Wow, this synth-preset is great! Good work dude!
I played around with that fruity-file of you, tweaked some fx, the melody and some other stuff. Now here is my version:
http://rsr.host.sk/preview/pvd.zip

It's really funny. Almost exactly one year ago, paul van dyk played this song in his set at 'Mayday 10in01'. And today i see how easy it is to get his sound with that cool piece of software called FruityLoops.
Lets see what he is doing tonight. I guess he will drive the crowd crazy...
Anybody there tonight? for me, i got some other things to do. but i'll record the radio-broadcast. it's about 10 hours, i think.

Don't forget: It's MAYDAY!!!

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Joi Lamusic
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Helsinki

Taz, really nice sound!!! Wow

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Taz
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: what's the difference

Thanks!

quote:
Originally posted by cyrus2k2
I played around with that fruity-file of you, tweaked some fx, the melody and some other stuff. Now here is my version:
http://rsr.host.sk/preview/pvd.zip


The pvd.zip doesn't open on my end unfortunately.

quote:
Wow, this synth-preset is great!


Preset? PRESET?!? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' PRESET!!

quote:
...And today i see how easy it is to get his sound with that cool piece of software called FruityLoops.


Well Fruityloops is just another one of those programs with lots of options and flexibility. Once you have that, it's all skills.

Let's have a closer look at the lead sound:
3osc - Two detuned sawtooths, and one sawtooth an octave up to brighten things. SD stands for Stereo Detune, gives it a stereo fatness. SP is Stereo Phase Offset - makes it stereo without really detuning.

Look at the volume envelope (that's VOL in the INS section) I've adjusted the decay, sustain level and release times so the sound doesn't just cut off but has a bit of what sounds like reverb.

The filter is BP - a bandpass to give it a bark. Note the cutoff envelope settings (CUT in the INS screen). Hold is all the way down so it's just decay doing all the work to give it a slight "bowww" kind of effect. Gives it punch.

Then the effects: Delay to give it rhythm and bounce. Flanger - there's too much going on to describe, except that it gives more motion and thickens the sound further. If you bring up the delay knob (1st one) it becomes less of a jet flanger and more like a chorus/detune effect.

And of course the key to it all: that big reverb. It's a technique borrowed from 70's and 80's arena rock, when they wanted to get that stadium sound on the records. Think Van Halen or any metal album from the late 80's.

Ah yes and the notes: It's just parallel harmony in sixths with roots in the bass, a technique known as open voicing, so you can use a fat sound without clutter.

Stay in school, peeps!
(Mind you, some of you might know all this stuff already.)

BTW, which mix of Awakening is in the sample, is it the original?

Last edited by Taz on Apr-30-2002 at 18:32

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Joi Lamusic
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Helsinki

Yeah, I can't open the pvd.zip either

Taz, U are giving quite nice tutorial over here!! Thanks alot! And keep on teaching

(I still have sooooo much to learn)

Old Post Apr-30-2002 20:42  Finland
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cyrus2k2
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Ruhrpott

hmmm, i dunno exactly which version it is. i think it's the extended mix. it's about 6:02.

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Taz
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: what's the difference

Yep, that's the one. Thanks!

Disappointing intro, though. See related thread:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...?threadid=44854

Old Post May-02-2002 13:12  Canada
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