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Originally posted by ResonantDrag just don't misinterpret "HEY.. FUCK YOU!" as an insult.

I though it was, "Can't you see I'm WALIN' HEEERE!!!" with a middle finger?

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r I though it was, "Can't you see I'm WALIN' HEEERE!!!" with a middle finger?

man... the nicest people i ever had the pleasure of getting yelled at by.



on a different note. the only dicks i've ever met in T.O. were from jersey.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd By the way it's funny that you mention LA. I visited in 2004. I remember seeing a guy in some random bar in LA who was wearing a shirt that said, "Don't speak English? Get the fuck out." As a matter of fact, I went to that bar the same day I arrived in LA.

What does that have to do with diversity? That has to do with people tolerating diversity. Hell, I'd wear that shirt.

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On a bus or subway in Canada, you're very likely to run into people of the following ethnicities: Portuguese, Croatian, Russian, Polish, Italian, Romanian. Please don't tell me they're not coming to North America, because they are, in large numbers. The founder of this forum (TA) is a Portuguese immigrant living in Canada, for instance. But I have rarely seen people of these ethnicities in the US.

What city? Some rural place in middle Canada, or wait lemme guess, Vancouver, Toronto or Quebec...or some suburb thereof? What about where you are right now in D.C. There sure are no black at all people there......right? Go check out the mall right by the Pentagon and tell me what you see...

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Not segregated, like I said it was full of students arriving from other places. They were arriving from KY, AL, TN, etc. And these places are overwhelmingly Anglo. Otherwise, I would have seen more blacks or Latinos or Arabs, wouldn't I?

Yes, segregated. There are blacks and latinos in the south, but the white people are still arrogant covert racists and stick to their kind more so than in the West, Midwest, or Northeast. Many white people like to segregate among other whites in the south still. You reinforce my point by saying they were from KY, AL, TN, as opposed to CA, WA, or NH.

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OK. But how many Americans take advantage of that? Most people in this country are quite sheltered and maybe too lazy to explore what's available to them outside of their safe little zones. Note that this is still the exact OPPOSITE of "diversity".

Um...WHAT? I thought this was a debate on diversity, and now you are turning it into a "Americans are too sheltered to explore diversity." There are so many venues of playing music in America and now you assume that Americans are not taking advantage of this? What statistic or clue gives you the idea that Americans don't turn listen to stuff outside of radio? Please site one, just ONE, source. Actually I'll give you a clue. There is none.

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That's exactly why people who work in the tourism industry always say that it's easy to tell if someone is an American tourist, because, when abroad, they will usually flock to the "M" or "KFC" signs, for instance, instead of making the effort to sample local culture and cuisine.

Really, because when I see THAI people come to AMERICA from THAI LAND, they usually eat THAI FOOD. Looks like it's easy to tell who is thai huh.

This is a separate issue that has nothing to do with diversity. Many people tend to eat what they are familiar with when out of the country.

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Of course one anecdote doesn't prove anything, but... true story.

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I don't want to belabor the point, but I do want to make clear that the myth of "diversity" in the US is profoundly misunderstood and very much flawed.

I don't want to make you sound contradictory from placing the above two posts next to each other, but judging by your anecdotes, it doesn't look like you have a profound understanding of the diversity that exists in America from the few examples (some even off topic) you've given.

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Originally posted by ResonantDrag just don't misinterpret "HEY.. FUCK YOU!" as an insult.

I interpret "Hi how are you" as an insult because the person who says it usually:

1. walks away so I can't even answer
2. doesn't really care how I am
3. asks the question AGAIN even right after I've answered
EXAMPLE:
"Hi how are you?"
"good, thanks"
"That's great, how you doin?"
"I already answered that question. Go to hell you thoughtless clone"

When someone says to me "HEY...FUCK YOU" I smile back (or say it back) because I know they're not lying to me or trying to act fake.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson I interpret "Hi how are you" as an insult because the person who says it usually: 1. walks away so I can't even answer 2. doesn't really care how I am 3. asks the question AGAIN even right after I've answered EXAMPLE: "Hi how are you?" "good, thanks" "That's great, how you doin?" "I already answered that question. Go to hell you thoughtless clone" When someone says to me "HEY...FUCK YOU" I smile back (or say it back) because I know they're not lying to me or trying to act fake.

Well usually the first and second inquiry on a person's being relate to emotional and physical status...

So it would be, "Hi, how are you?" followed by "What are you up to?"

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Originally posted by star-traveller I can see Canada as a 51st state of the US in future, it's allright with me.

The former British North American Colonies that became Canada have collectively rejected 4 invitations to join the US and confederated almost exclusively to avoid being annexed by force... I'm pretty confident that there is very little desire by those north of the 49th to become one with our friends to the south. This is not to say we dislike the US. The truth is there are more things that we agree on then disagree on and our guiding principles and values are pretty consistant, however, we have different visions on how best to acheive our goals. I kind of view it the same way I do Roman Catholics and Anglicans... pretty much the same but with some significant stylistic differences.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

I've lived/worked/run screaming from 48 or so countries on all the continents too...

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The friendliest city I've ever walked in -- and I've visited scores on five continents -- is New York.

Bzzzt wron....
How in the hell did NY make that one?
I guess by 'friendly' they mean haven't shot at you lately, lifted up your dress on a subway or tried to steal your belongings as 'friendly'
Yep, a lot is made of NY and it's inherit cranky/crank inhabitants and it's nowhere near the worst, but there's a good dozen or so which are much nicer places. Actually, most of the 'nice' people in NY are actually yanks from other parts of US or the migrants

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The most pristine beach I've ever stood on is in Florida.

Bzzt! Wrong!
Most of Florida smells of rotting seaweed, swampwater, coconut oil and the inhabitants are usually balling crazy on various drugs, which has it's own appeal I guess.
There's innumerable beaches around the world which are pristine, and by pristine I mean you're not treading on needles in the sand and dodging people amped up on roids and coke as a daily fact of life.
(Try some parts of SE Asia, where no one else goes! It's cheap too!)

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The best food I've ever eaten -- sorry Italy, France! --is in California's Sonoma Valley.

Bzzt! Wrong!
It's Greece with a close runner up of Italy, Germany and Japan also have fine food.

The US has a lot of things to offer people and a lot of them are good things too, I won't detract from the fact that it's just basically a great way of making a lot of money compared to most anywhere else. I like the US and have seen enough it to realise they're not all clichéd, fat, arrogant, inbred, cousin marrying idiots that drive big gas guzzling cars and shoot people as a democratic right.

But the rest of the world grows very weary of US culture permeating our lives, sometimes against our distinct objection to it, sometimes, we really are just content living where we are and doing what we do without Uncle Sam.

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Originally posted by Lilith I've lived/worked/run screaming from 48 or so countries on all the continents too... Bzzzt wron.... How in the hell did NY make that one? I guess by 'friendly' they mean haven't shot at you lately, lifted up your dress on a subway or tried to steal your belongings as 'friendly' Yep, a lot is made of NY and it's inherit cranky/crank inhabitants and it's nowhere near the worst, but there's a good dozen or so which are much nicer places. Actually, most of the 'nice' people in NY are actually yanks from other parts of US or the migrants Bzzt! Wrong! Most of Florida smells of rotting seaweed, swampwater, coconut oil and the inhabitants are usually balling crazy on various drugs, which has it's own appeal I guess. There's innumerable beaches around the world which are pristine, and by pristine I mean you're not treading on needles in the sand and dodging people amped up on roids and coke as a daily fact of life. (Try some parts of SE Asia, where no one else goes! It's cheap too!) Bzzt! Wrong! It's Greece with a close runner up of Italy, Germany and Japan also have fine food. The US has a lot of things to offer people and a lot of them are good things too, I won't detract from the fact that it's just basically a great way of making a lot of money compared to most anywhere else. I like the US and have seen enough it to realise they're not all clichéd, fat, arrogant, inbred, cousin marrying idiots that drive big gas guzzling cars and shoot people as a democratic right. But the rest of the world grows very weary of US culture permeating our lives, sometimes against our distinct objection to it, sometimes, we really are just content living where we are and doing what we do without Uncle Sam.

Hater!!

Well... when I do have the urge to hate you'll be happy to know I'll do it with a US manufactured weapon.

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What city? Some rural place in middle Canada, or wait lemme guess, Vancouver, Toronto or Quebec...or some suburb thereof? What about where you are right now in D.C. There sure are no black at all people there......right? Go check out the mall right by the Pentagon and tell me what you see...

i belive the city you were trying to mention was Montreal.... Quebec is a province Dumbass and Quebec City is not nearly large enough to be mentioned in your list.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

Canada will always be Canadian as simple as. A strong colonial hertige of British and French with the many other immigrants from other nations who have built communities and flourished there. Some Canadians I feel adopt some US culture in some aspects but they have their own identity and may it stay that way.

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Originally posted by Lilith Bzzt! Wrong! It's Greece with a close runner up of Italy, Germany and Japan also have fine food.

And the survey says... Da Der! The Bubble and Squeeks cook some alright food, speaking from spending over a month there, Mousakka, Lamb Klefitiko, Tzatiki and stuffed vines leaves are delicious however I've had some rancid fare over there.

Italy is culinary superior to the rest of the world food wise IMO. Rustic but sophisticated tasty but fairly healthy. Some might disagree. Spain comes a close second then I'd say France.

Germany all I remember is Bratwurst, Salami's, Saurkraut, Stollen and loads of ginger bread type buscuits.

On the arguement about the yanks foodwise, American beef is very good as they regulate their livestock and slaughtering processes properly.

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