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Originally posted by substorm Eather you cant read or you are just plain stupid! Read my os again and try to understand what i wrote! Wait here is it in BIG LETTERS! ITS FOR PRACTICING, THERE DOESNT SAY ANYWHERE THAT HE SHOUDL COPY THE DAMN TRACK! ITS A GOOD WAY OF LEARNING YOUR GEAR AND PRICTICING SOUNDS IF YOU CANT AFFORD AN MUSIC PRODUCTION EDUCATION. THIS IS ONE OF THE BASIC LESSONS IN MUSIC PRODCUTION TO UNDERSTAND! AND I WROTE THAT IF SOMEONE COMMENTS MY POST I WILL EAT YOU ALIVE!!!! YES YOU ARE BEING AN ASSHOLE TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT ACTULLY WANTS TO HELP! IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH? ELLER MÅSTE JAG SKRIVA PÅ NORSKA FÖR ATT DU SKA FATTA? Man people like you can really make me pissed!!!!

What the HELL are you on about?

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Originally posted by kitphillips If you believe you don't need a keyboard chances are your music is crap. Sorrt, but if you want any sort of melody/harmony or even very interesting beats, a keyboard is pretty neccesary.

What the hell? How does a keyboard make anyone a better composer? That's the most ridiculous claim I've ever read anywhere.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery What the hell? How does a keyboard make anyone a better composer? That's the most ridiculous claim I've ever read anywhere.

How can you compose without a keyboard, you can't get very far by drawing notes in in a sequencer, or do some people actually work like this?? I know some people who do this I guess, but they do all glitch and DnB type stuff, not trance, which has a strong melody by nature. A keyboard doesn't make you a better composer it just allows you to compose.

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Originally posted by kitphillips How can you compose without a keyboard, you can't get very far by drawing notes in in a sequencer, or do some people actually work like this?? I know some people who do this I guess, but they do all glitch and DnB type stuff, not trance, which has a strong melody by nature. A keyboard doesn't make you a better composer it just allows you to compose.

Just because you can't get very far by drawing notes doesn't mean nobody can. I consider my tracks to be fairly melodic and I've never needed a keyboard of any kind.

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wholy crap, angry people in a thread and I didn't cause it!

times are leaving me behind.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Just because you can't get very far by drawing notes doesn't mean nobody can. I consider my tracks to be fairly melodic and I've never needed a keyboard of any kind.

OK congratulations. Your special.

EDIT: Well, I just listened to one of your tracks, A Path Less Travelled, its really quite nice, but there is no melody you know... At least not in the sense I meant. I can see how you can get by without a keyboard, for YOUR style of music, I still think that for most styles of trance a keyboard is pretty neccesary, styles like those of Armin, PvD, Above and Beyond, all the people you commonly associate with trance.
I'm actually suprised there is any argument about this.

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Originally posted by kitphillips EDIT: Well, I just listened to one of your tracks, A Path Less Travelled, its really quite nice, but there is no melody you know... At least not in the sense I meant. I can see how you can get by without a keyboard, for YOUR style of music, I still think that for most styles of trance a keyboard is pretty neccesary, styles like those of Armin, PvD, Above and Beyond, all the people you commonly associate with trance. I'm actually suprised there is any argument about this.

Congratulations, you managed to listen to the one track I've made without melody.

Keyboard isn't necessary. Handy and useful - yes, necessary - no.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Congratulations, you managed to listen to the one track I've made without melody. Keyboard isn't necessary. Handy and useful - yes, necessary - no.

i actually agree here i produced without a keyboard for quite a while and i still do it sometimes. when i have an idea i just draw it in as i no what way its gona turn out.

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Originally posted by Sanguis Mortuum Yeah, I dont read this forum much, but there seems to be a lot of that in here. Almost every thread in this production section has someone flaming someone else, seemingly for no other reason than flaming someone just for the sake of it, just like david.michael's post in this thread.

It was a genuine suggestion. Yes, I was a smart-ass about it, but meh. No reason to get panties in a bunch.

However, the person who pointed out that perhaps he was already a DJ and wanted production help had a point, so, sorry for my misunderstanding if that's true.

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How can you compose without a keyboard, you can't get very far by drawing notes in in a sequencer, or do some people actually work like this?? I know some people who do this I guess, but they do all glitch and DnB type stuff, not trance, which has a strong melody by nature. A keyboard doesn't make you a better composer it just allows you to compose.

I composed for years without a MIDI controller... and now that I have one, I barely use the keys on it.

i draw all my beats and percussion in on the piano roll. i dont have a midi controller. i would only use my jp 8000 for pads everything else gets drawn in.

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Originally posted by sterilis i draw all my beats and percussion in on the piano roll. i dont have a midi controller. i would only use my jp 8000 for pads everything else gets drawn in.

Yeah, I end up toying with the keyboard for pads and chord progressions but I often end up clicking them into my sequencer once I have a sound I like anyway.