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Originally posted by Lira Living on the other side of the Rio Grande, I must say I've never noticed any contradiction regarding this situation. Religiously, being an illegal immigrant is not a crime - moving from a country to another is really just like moving from a state to another. As a matter of fact, no matter how wrong this is politically, I can't consider it an immoral crime either.

So you don't believe in protecting your own borders?

Immigration is one thing, illegal immigration is illegal for a reason, politically and morally.
I certainly don't walk in other people's house's because I don't feel it's not immoral to do so; there's no difference here.

Borders are borders for a reason.

That doesn't make me, 'xenophobic' or anything I just believe that if they want to come into my country, they should follow the law of the land.
If they break it just to come into the country, the logical question is, what other law are they going to break since they believe they are 'above' the most basic one before coming?

That doesn't even begin to compare how selfish they are when there are good, hard working immigrants trying to get in legally.

Aliens don't have some moral superiority to enter the country.
Get in line like everyone else and there will be no problems.

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Originally posted by occrider Perhaps you should compare the purchasing power of an unskilled laborer in the US vs. Mexico to answer your question. Then factor in the purchasing power of a person in Mexico receiving remittances from relatives working in the US. Hell, even taking currency differences alone, there's a reason why far more canadians are vacationing in the US (Canadian currency is no longer a "joke") and why I would love to (and am trying to) move to London to earn my wages on the pound.

If you compare to Americans sure; that's part of the problem right there.
Aliens want to both ways; American $$ to spend back home in poor Mexico.

And as a Canadian, going to Mexico, just don't end up dead...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Appears Bush is pulling the back taxes out of the bill that was given in his speech about a year ago...

Bush flip-flop on something?
Well I never!


Actually if they kicked all the Mexicans out of the US I think they'd find themselves a lot poorer because of it considering the economic benefits of what is essentially unregulated employment (low wages-higher profits) for light industry and agriculture. People might whine about the pressure on health systems, schools and law enforcement being bloated by illegal migrants, but the reality I suspect is a much smaller sum than the actual benefit of cheap labour for jobs that the locals just simply won't do anyway.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r So you don't believe in protecting your own borders?

Not the way it is done. I don't really believe the existence of international borders is a necessary one, to begin with.

I'd need a very long post in order to explain why I'm in favour of a global approach to human migration... would you mind waiting a little?

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Originally posted by Lira Not the way it is done. I don't really believe the existence of international borders is a necessary one, to begin with. I'd need a very long post in order to explain why I'm in favour of a global approach to human migration... would you mind waiting a little?

I'd be willing to wait that one out

Personally, I don't subscribe to the 'One love' mantra even if we do all have the same basic make-up.
It sounds all nice and flowery but there's something to be said in solidarity in which not everyone agrees to dilute their own 'traditions' or culture; call it pride if you want.
Again, not trying to sound xenophobic here, I'm all for mixing cultures (God knows I love Hakka and Vietnamese food; I love Toronto!) and learning the stories and cultures of others but the reality is, not everyone wants that.
Anyways, I look forward to hearing what you got to say Lira.

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The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."