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apri_peel
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: vancouver

a hockey team in vegas would be cool
drive down, play some slots, watch a hockey game

werent the penguins toying with the idea of moving to vegas if they find a buyer?

Old Post May-24-2007 23:47  Canada
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TCB
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Adelaide, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by thecoyote
but that means nothing....the majority of canuck fans come from the surrounding cities...just look at the traffic coming into the city on game days...especially from the north shore

vancouver is 500,000 and greater van is 2.2 mil
Winnipeg is 633,000 (bigger than vancouver proper)

but winnipeg will still draw from the 500,000 around the province plus people from Saskatewan and North Dakota.

plus gary bettman said in an interview only last week (at which time he would of known about jim balsillie and the preds) said that winnipeg was his #1 choice in canada.

Video Of Interview If You Dont Believe Me From Sportsnet

alot of people pass judgement on stuff they know nothing about!! winnipeg does have the corporate support and they have been in regular contact with the nhl. gary bettman since the allstar break is really starting to warm to them.

if you want to know about the corporate support and all the stats ask darren ford at jetsowner.com since he is in constant contact with all those involved.

we actually need to build in more corporate boxes. also ive been told that with not too much $$ the MTS can be expanded to accomodate another 1-2k which would be perfect. a few more corporate boxes, seats and some standing room like other arenas have.

My Rant.

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Old Post May-25-2007 01:50  Canada
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ThaRegger
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Regland

well i hope they didn't build the mts centre just for the moose.


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Notable Quotes From the HNC boys

Don Cherry (Hockey Night in Canada) says...
"They're not building a 15,000 seat arena for the AHL. I think (a return to Winnipeg) could really happen, and it could be one of the most successful franchises in the NHL"

Ron MacLean (Hockey Night in Canada) says...
"How do I know? I just feel, and I've always felt somehow, that they would return to Winnipeg? And I just think based on what we've seen, it's hard to imagine all of the Sun Belt teams surviving. I could be wrong on that. But relocation might be the easiest option for Winnipeg"

i state it might not happen this time round but it will happen.
but when it does i will come back to buy my tickets. alot of young people who have left the peg will return.

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ThaRegger
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Registered: Mar 2005
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the "white outs" were legendary


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mahalliner
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Winnipeg/Toronto

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Seattle would mean a lot of cool roadtrips!
You don't think Winnipeg could fair better with the salary cap era?


I don't think Winnipeg could fair even if each player was making $10/hourly! The arena wasn't built to accomodate an NHL team, and I don't think that even if it was constantly sold out we'd be able to keep a team. We've got less than 3/4 of a million people here. Wouldn't that make the team in the smallest market? I don't think it'll happen.

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mahalliner
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Winnipeg/Toronto

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Originally posted by RaPiD____EyE_k
seattle has a smaller population than winnipeg? since when? that whole area is comparable in population to the vancouver area isn't it?


The city itself is less than winnipeg. The metro area is bigger than vancouver, you're right. It's around 4mill.

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mahalliner
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Winnipeg/Toronto

This will probably start the flame war to end all flame wars but:

I don't think that if the Southern US teams fold that they will necessarily move elsewhere. If anything the league probably expanded far to fast and will shrink down to a smaller size in the coming years.

quote:
Originally posted by TCB
Notable Quotes From the HNC boys

Don Cherry (Hockey Night in Canada) says...
"They're not building a 15,000 seat arena for the AHL. I think (a return to Winnipeg) could really happen, and it could be one of the most successful franchises in the NHL"

Ron MacLean (Hockey Night in Canada) says...
"How do I know? I just feel, and I've always felt somehow, that they would return to Winnipeg? And I just think based on what we've seen, it's hard to imagine all of the Sun Belt teams surviving. I could be wrong on that. But relocation might be the easiest option for Winnipeg"

i state it might not happen this time round but it will happen.
but when it does i will come back to buy my tickets. alot of young people who have left the peg will return.

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mahalliner
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Winnipeg/Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by ThaRegger
the "white outs" were legendary


That they were. Those days were awesome. I was so young back then!

Old Post May-25-2007 04:06  Canada
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ill just laugh at all the negative people when they do comeback and are doing well and saying "ah yes i knew theyd come back, i had faith"



i do not think the NHL with shrink lol.

Old Post May-25-2007 04:37  Canada
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DjCommisad
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Vancouver

The league did expand too fast, too rapidly. I'm surprised the league is still around with the way Bettman runs it, and I've been saying that for years. He expands and allows teams to move from markets that (at the time) could not afford to keep teams to markets that are/were indifferent about welcoming a team. A handful of people actually cared when Carolina won the cup. Nashville has an avg. of 13,000 seats filled. Hell, during the PLAYOFFS this year, I saw more empty seats during Anaheim's 5-1 victory over Vancouver than full seats. He's forever pissed off and snubbed ESPN (who barely cover the cup final let alone anything but NHL wise) and gave over broadcasting rights to a network that 1 bar out of 10 in LA gets.

As for Winnipeg, I never said I don't want to see a team there. There's indication that there would be fan support, but the NHL is convinced there would not be enough support, enough population and fan support to sufficiently fill the arena to make it affordable to sustain a team there. They feel there is not enough corporate headquarts in the area to fill the box seats which are a huge portion of team income. I'd love to see a team back in Winnipeg. I'm sad it ever left there and went to Phoenix. Hell, one of US' largest cities could care less about the coyotes.

The league expanded too fast into markets that didn't even want teams or knew what hockey is, and still don't. They watered down the talent pools which if not for the increased capabilities of teams to scout, draft, train, condition and coach, we'd have a lot more pathetic teams out there filled with players that 10 years ago would have no business playing in the league. Putting a team in Vegas is a joke. People don't go to Vegas to watch hockey, they go to gamble (ok, that's a poor assumption but come on), and those living there could probably care about hockey as much as any other desert city.. oh what's that, Phoenix is a desert city, one with a huge population advantage yet little fan support?

I don't know if they need another southern ontario team (toronto and ottawa) but I don't want to see a talented team like Nashville suffer too long if the fans don't start supporting their team. Quebec won't get a team, sorry. There's no support for it from the government or fans enough to be bothered. I'd like to see two american teams move to winnipeg and quebec, but that won't happen. sorry guys.


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As for Winnipeg, I never said I don't want to see a team there. There's indication that there would be fan support, but the NHL is convinced there would not be enough support, enough population and fan support to sufficiently fill the arena to make it affordable to sustain a team there. They feel there is not enough corporate headquarts in the area to fill the box seats which are a huge portion of team income. I'd love to see a team back in Winnipeg. I'm sad it ever left there and went to Phoenix. Hell, one of US' largest cities could care less about the coyotes.

I don't know if they need another southern ontario team (toronto and ottawa) but I don't want to see a talented team like Nashville suffer too long if the fans don't start supporting their team. Quebec won't get a team, sorry. There's no support for it from the government or fans enough to be bothered. I'd like to see two american teams move to winnipeg and quebec, but that won't happen. sorry guys.

did you even read what i wrote??

listen to that interview for gods sake. slaps head. go back up 10 posts.

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