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Mauricio
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I'm not sure its really a good plan to use group channels to group tracks by frequency. In some cases this may work out well, but i wouldn't do this myself as a general rule.

What I use them for is for sharing FX among common instruments and for making submixed stems of your track once it is closer to completion. Bear in mind this is not the only way to use them, as each individual will use them in accordance with their particular method of working, but these are some of the ways in which I use them.

One of the things I do is to bus my bass and kick to the same group channel and then I can apply compression that will equally effect both of them. This can help the Kick and Bass gel together a little more smoothly, especially since I haven't figured out a way to do sidechaining in Cubase SL (I know it is possible in SX, but SL lacks the Dual Stereo Panner).


Actually I've expressed wrong, I use similar you. Not fequency, I try to create groups for diferent layers, each layer is one level (1 to 5), were 1 is the louder = kick and bass.

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If anyone knows of a way to accomplish this in SL, I'd love to know. I know that there are certain VST compressors that will do it, but I'm not sure I trust the quality or character of a compressor with built-in sidechain over my UAD-1 compressors. Opinions are welcome.


I recomend you the TC Native Bundle, it works perfect to me. I mentioned it on this thread:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...3&forumid=48&s=

There are some youtube links too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HMGu-8p0go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHfN9yeuoew

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In your situation, one good way to use a group channel may be to bus your all your hats (closed/open) to a single group channel, so you can apply a single, short reverb that will equally effect all of them. This is just a suggestion and you'll have to define the particular ways in which this works best for you.

I do not use offline processing, but I agree with DJDIRTY that it seems like a great feature of Cubase to have. Unfortunately, I only have SL and as far as I know this feature is only available in SX so I cannot speak to it.


Is like this i'm using. I'm trying yet to make the best mix using not much reverbs. I just want a woshing and smoth background.

And now about sidechain, how you are using the keys?
From now i'm using only the key on the kick and the duck the bass. What other ways of sidechain you are using?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mauricio
I recomend you the TC Native Bundle, it works perfect to me. I mentioned it on this thread:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...3&forumid=48&s=

There are some youtube links too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HMGu-8p0go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHfN9yeuoew


Excellent, I'll have a look at this. It may be a good stop gap until I can figure out a way to sidechain natively in Cubase. The UAD compressors are mighty fine. However, the TC Bundle looks reasonably priced. I'd be curious to hear how the TC compressors stack up to the UAD-1 compressors. Does anyone who owns both products have any opinions on this?

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And now about sidechain, how you are using the keys?
From now i'm using only the key on the kick and the duck the bass. What other ways of sidechain you are using?


That's just it, I haven't found a way to do this at all natively in Cubase SL, so I do not use sidechaining in my projects. It hasn't really been a problem as I don't consider it to be a "must have" for me at the moment, but it would be nice. Mostly I get by using careful EQ and compression.

If I had sidechaining ability I would most likely use it in the way you describe. I have also run into other situations where a good sidechain would have been useful for things other than the kick and bass, but I won't be able to experiment until I find a good solution.

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Mauricio
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Excellent, I'll have a look at this. It may be a good stop gap until I can figure out a way to sidechain natively in Cubase. The UAD compressors are mighty fine. However, the TC Bundle looks reasonably priced. I'd be curious to hear how the TC compressors stack up to the UAD-1 compressors. Does anyone who owns both products have any opinions on this?


Unfortunately the TC Native Bundle are now discontinued. http://www.tcelectronic.com/NativeBundle

I haven't found another option then download it on p2p network, although i don't like to do this.
I don't know about UAD.

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Unfortunately the TC Native Bundle are now discontinued. http://www.tcelectronic.com/NativeBundle

I haven't found another option then download it on p2p network, although i don't like to do this.
I don't know about UAD.


Yeah, I really don't like to do this. Apart from the ethical reasons for it, I think that cracked software compromises the stability of my system. I'll continue to search for an alternative solution. Thanks!

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