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Ted Promo
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Registered: Jun 2005
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Originally posted by Ian
On a kinda flipside of this, I know & have spoken to DJs who have the ability to be the best but just don't want to have to deal with the full-on mainstream media. Mark EG is one such example, behind the decks he is legendary, he can play many styles of music and his overall energy is brilliant, I love the guy to bits as a big inspiration in my upbringing, and his love of the music in general is just astonishing


Mark EG... Mark EG... where have I heard that before...

oh, he looks like BTG, and...



so basically, he's the GG Allin of dance music

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djdk
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Location: London

A quote from Tony Wilson, the man who ran the Hacienda and Factory records and was one of the the most important figures in the creation of the acid house movement in the UK, that sums it all up perfectly. Ive lifted it straight from Dave Haslams book "Adventures on the Wheels of Steel: The Rise of the Superstar DJs".

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Remember I fought against disco all my life, and this battle against disco had gone on and on, but the real moment for me was staring down from the DJ box one night when Mike Pickering was DJ-ing and suddenly going "Oh fuck, now I get it"; the democracy of the art experience, it's everybody - it's the people who made the record, it's the DJ, it's everybody dancing - and it isn't four guys on a stage with white lights on them and everyone else in the dark.

What dance music has become is one guy with a white light on him and everyone in the fucking dark, which is precisely how it wasn't meant to be.


I dont think I can put it any better. Haslams book is a bit old now, but still very relavent, and a damn good read too, I highly recommend it.


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Originally posted by djdk
A quote from Tony Wilson, the man who ran the Hacienda and Factory records and was one of the the most important figures in the creation of the acid house movement in the UK, that sums it all up perfectly. Ive lifted it straight from Dave Haslams book "Adventures on the Wheels of Steel: The Rise of the Superstar DJs".



I dont think I can put it any better. Haslams book is a bit old now, but still very relavent, and a damn good read too, I highly recommend it.


Good quote, I've seen Ferry Corsten twice and Armin once, and they haven't been the best nights I've had.
Too many pricks pointing camera phones, jostling to get to the front of the club to take photos / shake hands etc.
The night seems to improve though when everyone is tired of staring at Mr Superstar, and just gets on with having a good time.
The best nights I've had have always been in a smaller club with a lesser known DJ. One's where people aren't pumping their fist at the DJ and screaming their name.


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Aaron C.
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Registered: Nov 2006
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what the rockstar dj thing has affected is the love and appreciation of music first and foremost and the communal experience of an underground party where the dj and crowd and place and time are all one spirit and one rhythm and one. also it has seriously taken away from dancing.

go to any armin or pvd or tiesto party in north america and you'll see a bunch of middle to upper class white boys pumping their fists at the stage. (the market, and what they do instead of dancing)

check out of a video of mijk van dyk playing at dubmission or something and then see the difference.


the superstar deejays also have accelerated standardization and commodification of what was once underground music through things like radio shows. they have destroyed, or rather mangled beyond recognition that which they set out to "introduce" or "spread".

the sad reality is, the mainstream doesn't want to go to underground, they want the underground to adapt to it.

superstar deejays through their ubiquitousness and place in the pop psyche stratify and thestandardization that comes through mass marketing create stereotypes that harm the scene by misleading people about what the music and culture is really about. People associate popularity with quality, and this culture of instant gratification would rather have a popular (and by default quality) dj tell them what is dance music rather than to seek it and study it and submerge themselves in it on their own.


the best parties i have ever been to have been absolute no name djs or at least anonymous deejays in small clubs with real atmosphere and real, interesting people.


edit -
sorry if this sounds like propaganda. take what i write with a grain of salt. it's just my opinion, however, one about which i have strong feelings.


Interesting points.True.The best show with the most awesome tracks played was a local show.With local Djs spinning some wicked awesome stuff.It was "Night Arkiteks" and "Lizandro Campos".Best djs i've ever seen.


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Mark EG... Mark EG... where have I heard that before...

oh, he looks like BTG, and...



so basically, he's the GG Allin of dance music









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