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jonas
I'z hungry

Registered: Aug 2005
Location: I'm sooooo 972. TXTA #138
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| quote: | Originally posted by progressiveMOJO
Except, mid-90's trance and mid-2000's trance have nothing to do with each other, so it's not really evolution. One died, because of various historical reasons, many having to do with the rise of international "super-star" DJ's like Tiesto and AVB and others pushing a certain new sound, and the other was born and took its name.
which is to say: this isn't a question of "what the hell did it become," it's a question of "where the hell did it go/why did it die," because I refuse to acknowledge that modern trance has much to do with 90's trance. Hell, half of what was clearly trance then would be considered house now, that's how radical the shift is.
also, if anyone feels up to the challenge: recommend me some new tracks that still smack of that old trance sound |
Darude-Sandstorm
It's so hot right now.
Also, try Shiny Disco Balls. It's only out on promo right now. But it's awesom. 
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Jun-05-2007 13:25
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Zeonfiend
Nath(.tx)an McWaters

Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Austin, TX, USA: TX TA #115
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My favorites are the ones that point at me when Madonna gets played, because it's "techno".
I liked Sharam's GU, but Dubfire's is fucking art!
I guess in the grand scheme of things, I have to agree that trance didn't "evolve" between the '90s and now, but rather it pulled a chameleon and just changed its appearance to blend itself with the prog/house trend that sort of percolated up when the '00s hit. We could play the finger-pointing game at Tiesto and ATB and Paul van Dyk and Oakenfold and the rest of the bunch that sort of shuffled their way onto the stage with trance that Sven Vath and Oliver Lieb pioneered, then kicked that sound to the curb when it had served its purpose, but none of them would have had the guts to do it if the masses hadn't consented to it by continuing to support them in spite of their later ill-treatment of the scene for their self-aggrandizing. Can you really blame them? They were being paid to do it! Progressive would have died on the wayside if people didn't pay for it; house, the same. Minimal, techno, D'n'B, *insert next catchy EDM fad nomenclature here* are in the same boat. It's the money that's talking to the environment in which EDM music is forged, and it's money that fertilizes the soil from which EDM sprouts. In the Big Game, trance wasn't cutting it on the profit margin race (too much revenue being dumped into Ecstasy, forced hippie rehab programs, and glowsticks, I guess), so it was obliged to settle into background noise to more successful genres of EDM. You won't be finding that sound again as a mass production, not in this age at least. But then, that sort of holds a novelty all its own, doesn't it? I mean, if only the hardcore tranceheads in their truest form, who remember the days of '90s trance being the in-thing, are the ones that not only long for it but collect it in spite of the current trends in EDM, then that kind of makes old school trance the new underground in EDM, doesn't it? Eat your hearts out, junglists; the new anthem for the Rebellion is The KLF - "What Time Is Love? (Pure Trance Original)". 
Just remember it's a chameleon; from acid house to acid trance to progressive trance, all it's ever done is change its skin.
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Jun-05-2007 19:05
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progressiveMOJO
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Black Rock City
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Jonas, I'm not quite sure where in anything that I wrote it is that I said "my music is better than yours." I phrased everything in terms of my personal tastes, which yes, differ from many on this board, and certainly differ from mainstream opinion on this board. That doesn't mean that I ever said, implied, or hinted that it's empirically better. If you're going to be inflammatory, you might try being correct first.
Hell, if anything, I paid serious homage and compliment to the kind of music that I have always thought about when I think of Trance.
I don't really think of modern trance as my first reaction to the word, or at least I didn't until I realized that people would assume that saying "I like Trance" means I like ATB and Tiesto and Armin, when in reality it means I like Oliver Lieb and Sven Vath etc. It would solve things for me somewhat if Trance had stayed Trance and this new, unrelated style had picked a different name for itself.
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