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Originally posted by montana I would agree. but it comes down to what system the club has and in what state of quality the 192 is.

My post was made assuming it was the highest possible quality 192 kbps (i.e. purchased from a reputable source) - you can't polish a turd after all

And honestly - I don't presume to have been to every club in the world, but I've been to quite a few across the globe, and not one of them was in such a fashion that it was remotely near to listening to something on a home system/headphones/etc.

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Originally posted by RJT 99.9% of people in a club can't tell. Period. It's a fact that there's no use in arguing.

Can you provide a source for this "fact" please?

I'd say it's purely down to the individual TBH, some people can tell the difference and some can't - it's not a big deal really.

At the end of the day, we're human after all, and each of our ears are slightly different to the next person.

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like I said,

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Originally posted by agentdansmith Can you provide a source for this "fact" please?

Years of experience, and not just my own, but those of clubbers and DJ's alike who have far more years on their feet than I do.

Honestly - the whole audiophile debate was just made for the internet, because all the little boys and girls can sit here and say "OMG It's such a HUGE difference" knowing full well that their claim will never be verified in a real world setting.

For that reason alone it's really no use to even argue about it.

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That guy's funny actually

what part of don't you understand ?

Last edited by Mmanu on Jun-15-2007 at 11:01

I think you would be surprised actually.
I think a lot depends on how well you know the system to start with but on some of the systems I play on a regular basis I believe I can tell. As I said, it depends on how intimate you are with the sound system though.
Could I sell the difference between a 320 and a 192 on the same system... probably not.

I have always been able to tell the difference between CDs and vinyl on those systems. Call me a mutant if you want but I bet I'm not alone.

That said, I don't think the average clubber would notice or care if they did, and I don't think the difference is so great that it has a negative effect on the overall outcome anyway.

If people stop dancing because you have playing a low quality MP3 then you know you are playing something that sounds so shit even your deaf uncle could tell.

In answer to the original question, does a wav sound better than a MP3, sure it does. Does it make a big difference on the dancefloor, no it doesn't and it should never stop you from playing them. For me 192s are fine too.


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one of the reasons i don't play 192 kbps mp3s is because i like to record my live sets even if i don't share them, and i like the audio quality to be consistent for later listening.

I'm sure there must be some people who can tell the difference, but I'd be willing to bet that even the majority of those who say they can would think a 128kbps mp3 with pre recorded vinyl pops and distortion sounds better than an uncompressed wav file if they weren't informed of the source in advance.

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All you are gonna get are mixed opinions on the subject.

Its clear that there are the few bitter mp3 dj's in here trying to justify all their asinine mp3 purchases. in my opinion an mp3 is worth zero whatever the quality. That doesn't meen it wont sound good in a club, it just meens that i wouldn't pay anything for mp3 music.

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Originally posted by starboy All you are gonna get are mixed opinions on the subject. Its clear that there are the few bitter mp3 dj's in here trying to justify all their asinine mp3 purchases. in my opinion an mp3 is worth zero whatever the quality. That doesn't meen it wont sound good in a club, it just meens that i wouldn't pay anything for mp3 music.

Sounds like you're just trying to justify not buying your music.

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Originally posted by Project-K I'm sure there must be some people who can tell the difference, but I'd be willing to bet that even the majority of those who say they can would think a 128kbps mp3 with pre recorded vinyl pops and distortion sounds better than an uncompressed wav file if they weren't informed of the source in advance.

As a DJ your ears aren't as well trained in comparison to when you enter the world of producing. Then your ears come alive and you instantly recognise what you would choose to boost and how the sound is percieved over all. It really does change your whole perception.

You also develop in instant recognition for mud, i.e. the effect you get on lower quality MP3s. Digital mp3 compression doesn't handle bass particularly well.

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