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Originally posted by Freak I'm a londoner too.. well not any more, but born and bred there. I cant see how it has benefitted it. That comes from my perspective as both a driver and a user of the tube.

you aint from central London

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Originally posted by steven-neil you aint from central London

Angel - zone 1... pretty central

hand on heart, traffic to me seems worse since the charge was introduced-especially going through the west end (knightsbridge - picadilly-trafalgar sq at any time is hell on earth now) where traffic light timings have been changed seemingly to cause congestion and slow peoples journey down.

Im not one to criticize for the sake of it... but I genuinely fail to see much difference, apart from making people cough up an extortionate amount on top of crazy levels of council tax, road tax and petrol duty.

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Originally posted by AY STAR iam 50/50 for it traffic in the city is out of control it takes 30 min to cross town from the linchon tunnel to the midtown back in the days of robert moses he wanted to build a highway that would connect the 2 would have been a pretty good idea but shit happens and 2nd ave is a mess but 8 bucks is a lil too much wat if you gotta go into the city then leave but then wanna go back? u gotta pay again crazy and as for that money goin towards helpin improve mass transit? wat about now the mta wanna increase their own fares to $2.50 by 2009 or 2010 so now we gotta pay more to go into manhattan and also to use the subway? bullshit ill put you guys on to somethin i used to work for mta bridges and tunnels in 2005 they grossed 1.2 billion dollors and my uncle works in matience on the battery tunnel and i have friends still at the midtown tunnel and they said it only takes about 300 to 350 mill a year to run all the bridges and tunnels thats salarys and matinence the rest is profit and that goes towards other mta projects "supposedly" but who knows where the money goes but somethin has to be done with traffic i just dont want the hard workin citizen haveing to break his check for it

whatever tolls you would pay to enter manhattan would go towards the $8 fee.

love whatchin the British guys fight, anyways why is there a constant war on cars in this city, its been like this for 40 yrs, leave it alone, leave us alone, fee for water, fee for registering, fee for license, mta fee on my con ed, 99cents fee on my cell phone, Fuckin enough with taxes and fees, everone is a liberal until they get ajob and pay theree whole salary to subsidize those who dont work 90 houurs a week. leave me alone with all your taxes
Everybody worried about Global warming, Are u kidding me, yea nice idea, save the environment Blah Blah Blah, there are millions of people, and i use that term loosely, who wake very morning with the direct objective to kill us, they train, they prepare, they have propaganda, all they want to do is destroy the western world, or Islamize it, and here we American/ British asses are ready to fight global warming, no not terrorists, terrorism is just a bumper sticker anyhow, right Senator Edwards, no global warming is the real threat right Sen. Gore, God no wonder the middle eats thinks were all pussies, cause their preparing for our deaths while we worry about cars in the city

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Originally posted by Freak Angel - zone 1... pretty central hand on heart, traffic to me seems worse since the charge was introduced-especially going through the west end (knightsbridge - picadilly-trafalgar sq at any time is hell on earth now) where traffic light timings have been changed seemingly to cause congestion and slow peoples journey down. Im not one to criticize for the sake of it... but I genuinely fail to see much difference, apart from making people cough up an extortionate amount on top of crazy levels of council tax, road tax and petrol duty.

Ok I havent been back home for over three years so I can only comment on how good things were back then...When you come to live here you will realise how much better off you were,, paying for council tax road tax and higher petrol prices etc...We have the same taxes here but theyre called different names and theres lots more of them....

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Originally posted by steven-neil Ok I havent been back home for over three years so I can only comment on how good things were back then...When you come to live here you will realise how much better off you were,, paying for council tax road tax and higher petrol prices etc...We have the same taxes here but theyre called different names and theres lots more of them....

NYC is socialism disgiused as capitalism, wait its not disguised, its blatant socialism

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Originally posted by southbound24 love whatchin the British guys fight, anyways why is there a constant war on cars in this city, its been like this for 40 yrs, leave it alone, leave us alone, fee for water, fee for registering, fee for license, mta fee on my con ed, 99cents fee on my cell phone, Fuckin enough with taxes and fees, everone is a liberal until they get ajob and pay theree whole salary to subsidize those who dont work 90 houurs a week. leave me alone with all your taxes Everybody worried about Global warming, Are u kidding me, yea nice idea, save the environment Blah Blah Blah, there are millions of people, and i use that term loosely, who wake very morning with the direct objective to kill us, they train, they prepare, they have propaganda, all they want to do is destroy the western world, or Islamize it, and here we American/ British asses are ready to fight global warming, no not terrorists, terrorism is just a bumper sticker anyhow, right Senator Edwards, no global warming is the real threat right Sen. Gore, God no wonder the middle eats thinks were all pussies, cause their preparing for our deaths while we worry about cars in the city

what do global warming and terrorism have to do with taxing cars to rid the city of congestion and help build 3 or 4 LIRR/Metro North stations???

and NYC is far from pure socialism. The hallmark of socialism is the redistribution of wealth. NYC has some of the greatest gaps in wealth equality. Notice the difference between Park ave in the 70s and Park Ave in the South Bronx. That is evidence that socialism is not nearly as prevalent as you think.

Taxation is the foundation of government; it couldn't exist without it. And life certainly wouldn't be better without government.

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Originally posted by southbound24 NYC is socialism disgiused as capitalism, wait its not disguised, its blatant socialism

we have it easy compared to parts of europe

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[11:58] Bas //: fuck he's hot

london is nyc multiplied by 2. i choose nyc. thank you.

i heard something about the 7 line being extended to 34st...
i rep the purple line n i hope that isnt just a rumor, would be nice n essential!

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Originally posted by verndogs we have it easy compared to parts of europe

what exactly are u talkin about ....??


and to south bound, actually there is no socialism in the US thats bs, i dont know where u got that idea from but as far as i know its all based on the idea of pure capitalism (money,power,greed,etc u know the rest)

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