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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
My body simply hates carbonated drinks. I just tend to bloat and feel like crap if I do drink them.

Yeah, soda sucks!
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
MMMMMmmmm....High Glucose Corn Syrup....
(which could easily be a whole other thread).

Organic, not from concentrate, preferable freshly sqeezed , but yeah, that could be a whole other thread on it's own .


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Magnetonium
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Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada


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Originally posted by NeoPhono
Unless you're consuming close to your own body weight in aspartame daily, you're fine. This is a classic example of extremes increasing the risk of cancer. It would be hard to find any one substance that in ridiculously huge amounts wouldn't cause some sort of medical issue.

I'm not sure where the chlorine concern comes in, considering aspartame is C14 H18 N2 O5.

Ethanol crosses the blood brain barrier just as easily, in fact even more easily than methanol. The amount of methanol produced by aspartame metabolism is incredibly small and the small amount produced is more than likely completely excreted before even coming close to the brain. Other, "natural" foods also have methanol as a metabolic product. So again, unless you're either eating your body weight in aspartame or doing shots of methanol, the fear is unwarranted.

But hey, if you're scared of aspartame, don't consume it, no one is forcing you to. But while you're at it, you might as well stop consuming these as well.


Aspartame is toxic, just like alcohol and has been shown in lab tests to give all kinds of problems to animals. Read a great book called "Aspartame - Taste That Kills" that talks about neurotoxins and how brutal they are to your health.


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Soy Milk - Cancer, decreased thyroid function, blood clotting, decreased hormone production.

http://www.healingcrow.com/soy/soy.html


I was boring myself away trying to find that elusive dagger that makes soy milk so bad in that article ... too many words, perhaps? Because other than hormone thing, which doesnt bother me that much or affect me negatively whatsoever because higher levels of estrogen dont drive my hormones wild, well, other than that, there's no denial that soy has great nutrients and with good ingredients the milk is very good.

"It should be noted that the researchers did not dare to use soy products to help the children recover from malnutrition, and were obliged to supplement the soy-sugar mixture with nutrients largely absent in soy products - notably, vitamins A, D and B12, iron, iodine and zinc."

^^^ NO SHIT. The article is dumb - its trying to disprove soy milk on the notion that it cant help all the people's problems and health defficiencies. Soy milk is perfect for people like me who are fine and dandy and want status quo.

The anti-soy article is probably written and/or lobbied by the poisonous cow-milk industry that feels threatened from the increasing soy milk popularity.

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Juice - Weight gain, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease.

http://healthtipswithdrlen.com/2006...-unhealthy.aspx


Do you even read the links that you post? Quote:

"Most commercial fruit juices are NOT healthy! How much stronger do I have to say it. Please don’t confuse fresh squeezed juice with the sugary fruit juices that are sold in stores. They are two completely different things. The fresh squeezed juices are completely acceptable….although I would recommend eating the fruit as opposed to drink all the juice, because you also want to get the additional nutrients and fiber found in the pulp.

So, therefore, fruit juices are good for you. I prefer Tropicana Extra Pulp OJ, my usual. No pop for me. No shit, everyone knows that commercial drinks are bad for you, esp. when they have loads of sugar, little if any of original juice.

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Tea - Cancer. (see a common theme?)

http://www.findarticles.com/p/artic..._n56/ai_9164614


Gimme a break. SOME Tea ... clearly says SOME tea, few kinds. "The Chinese, although they are heavy tea drinkers, drink tea that is low in tannin and have little throat cancer. The British, also profuse drinkers of tea that contains tannin, add milk to their drink which binds tannin, rendering it harmless."

I drink tea that doesnt have these toxins. I dont drink and of the tea brands mentioned in that whole article. I dont drink Dutch, English, Chinese, African tea.

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As you can see, just about everything causes cancer. I guess you should just stick to water (although not too much) and pretty much avoid everything else and you'll be fine.



Or you can simply realize, as stated before, than in moderation aspartame, along with pretty much all normally consumed food items or substitutes, are perfectly safe.


No, actually, I can see that not everything causes cancer because you didnt list all the foods, especially vegetables. If you pick the right kinds of foods, then cancer risks can not only be minimized, but avoided altogether.

As for coffee, alcohol, soft drinks / pop, and cow milk - well, no brainer - its been proven and covered many times. I have said goodbye to all those long time ago, and as a vegan I also said goodbye to many other things.


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