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Gauss
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Re: arabian songs

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Originally posted by Carma3TDR2000
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Uhh, what?

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RebeL9
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Originally posted by xiad
side note: I love the fact that people associate my culture with amazing sounding music...it makes me so happy seriously

Arabian sounding trance sounds nothing like the massivley over produced bullshit they call arabic music nowadays

anyway check out dilruba (junkie XL remix) - Niyaz


there is nothing arabian with that tune. not even the language is arabic


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Re: Re: arabian songs

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Originally posted by Gauss
Uhh, what?


he's probably referring to the chanting and stuff in the breakdown


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keithos27
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Registered: Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
there is nothing arabian with that tune. not even the language is arabic


what language is it, btw?

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Konijn
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what language is it, btw?


farsi and urdu.


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niyaz is a perisan, urdu, and arabic speaking/singing group

please do not challenge my knowledge about arabic culture, or 'eastern sounding' music

he said arabic SOUNDING, not nessesarily ARABIC SINGING


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RebeL9
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quote:
Originally posted by xiad
niyaz is a perisan, urdu, and arabic speaking/singing group

please do not challenge my knowledge about arabic culture, or 'eastern sounding' music

he said arabic SOUNDING, not nessesarily ARABIC SINGING


i challenge you since Niyaz is far more iranian/sub-indian-continental sounding than arabic.


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SYSTEM-J
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I think this would cause a lot less confusion if the thread was titled "Middle Eastern Sounding Tracks". "Arabic" tends to get used as a catch-all description of Middle Eastern stuff, because people don't know the exact countries that fall into the category.


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I think this would cause a lot less confusion if the thread was titled "Middle Eastern Sounding Tracks". "Arabic" tends to get used as a catch-all description of Middle Eastern stuff, because people don't know the exact countries that fall into the category.


yep i recall that thread. the general knowledge about what the Middle East actually is is quite low. mostly due to the fact that there is are several definitions of what the Middle East actually is. Some people believe the Middle East is only the arab speaking countries but both Iran and Turkey are a part of ME and they are both non-arab countries.
In north america the Middle East is the region stretching from Pakistan in the East to Egypt in the West thus excluding the Maghrib nations of North Africa. That's why Americans say "Middle East and North Africa", MENA. While Europeans and others often refer to Middle East as stretching from Iran in the East to Morocco in the West. There are so to say both a political and one geographical definition of The Middle East.

When it comes to Music, as we have seen here and in other threads anything that remotely sounds "arabic" is classified is arabic. But the cultural and musical difference between the arabic countries and the Indian subcontinent is vast. I've sometimes even seen people refer to Bollywood music as "arabic chants".


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It's because the culture of the region doesn't get as much exposure in the West as Western culture does across the world. The Middle East is most commonly mentioned when there is a war there, so exposure to the culture comes from Western artists, or Middle Eastern artists operating in the West. That's why most of the tracks you'll get in this kind of thread will be from Western producers who have used Middle Eastern sounds to create an exotic effect.

The common side-effect here is what I usually label in my reviews as "ethnic theft phenomenon", where you get a bizarre collage of different cultures appearing on the same record, because they all sound exotic.


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RebeL9
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interesting fact is that many pop music labels in the west predicted that the arab pop would be the next big wave, such as the latino pop and italian pop to go through Europe in 2002. but unfortunatly the 9/11 put an end to that.
more about the middle eastern music, its history, often politically coloured can be read in this book.


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