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Spoonz
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Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Perth, Scotland

i was like that too, actually not that long ago. a lot of that time i spend tightening the track i'm cueing in my headfones, making any adjustments to the EQ's necessary.

for long transitions it has a lot to do with harmonics, knowing the key tracks are in so u can mix the next one in key will mean that when they are both playing together they wont sound dodgy, tho u will need to play about with the EQ's to prevent any clashing sounds

most of the tracks i mix are about 6-7 mins long which usually means 1.30-2.00mins of build up, therefore if they are not in key i cant make the most of the build up... whereas if they are both in key i can extend the transition to go on longer without getting bum notes and ruining the mix lol


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Andryuha
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland, Ohio

quote:
Originally posted by Cro_Addict
When I look at videos of other people they are always pushing turning knobs on their mixer, and i always think WTF are they doing...any advice?


In most cases, they are adjusting the EQ. During transition they do it to make sure that tracks are playing at the same volumes and that highs/lows/mids don't overlap on both tracks. It is possible to mix even without the faders, using the EQs alone (bring in the beats from a cued track while removing them from the track that's currently playing). Otherwise, the EQs could be used to highlight/filter certain frequencies while the tune is playing. It's also a possibility that a rotary mixer is being used. Effects are also controlled with knobs.

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nefardec
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in most cases they just have a lot of bottled up energy and can't keep their hands off the eq knobs even if they aren't doing anything

or they want to make it look like they are doing more than they really are

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Spoonz
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
in most cases they just have a lot of bottled up energy and can't keep their hands off the eq knobs even if they aren't doing anything

or they want to make it look like they are doing more than they really are


haha, i have to agree to some extent on that last 1


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Cro_Addict
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quote:
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or they want to make it look like they are doing more than they really are


Thats retarded..lol

I would rather just stand there and have a beer and listen to the tune..

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Andryuha
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
in most cases they just have a lot of bottled up energy and can't keep their hands off the eq knobs even if they aren't doing anything

or they want to make it look like they are doing more than they really are


I was often under that same impression

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nefardec
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it's the truth

there's no reason touch touch the eqs that much

watch paul van dyk mix, he touches the eqs so much it's not even funny

he's just jumpy

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kidkotch
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
it's the truth

there's no reason touch touch the eqs that much

watch paul van dyk mix, he touches the eqs so much it's not even funny

he's just jumpy



That may be a poor example....Paul Van Dyk doesn't suck! Maybe his use of the EQ's is part of the reason.

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nefardec
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did I say he sucked?

he just touches the damn knobs a lot more than you hear the sound changing


if you watch his hands he doesn't even turn the knobs, he just kind of anxiously fingers them in quick spurts


it's because there's way too many knobs on the xone 3d haha


with that said, i think he's had his day

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David Jeffreys
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not using the eq's is one of the stupidest things i have ever heard.
its called mixing! any blow hole can play one song after another
and not mess with the eq's.we call them radio and wedding dj's.
it takes skill to transform from one song to the next wothout anyone knowing at all. and it takes knowing how to use the eq's properly to do this.

as far as dj's tweaking with the eq's while one track is playing.
its fine. its just knowing when to do it. but dont over do it!
a little is a lot in the case!

dj's do this for a few reasons.

#1 its helps creat a live feeling and sound for the crowd

#2 gives them something to do.

#3 if the dj does it right it really gets the crowd moving.

nothing is more boring then watching a dj stand around with his dick in his hand drinking a beer while everyone else around them is rocking out. where is the connection to the people. loose your self
in the music with everyone else and get down and play with the song.

a dj's abilty tweak eq's and to mix from one song to another properly and gracefully is what seperates us from each other. mixing style is just as important as the tracks. because anyone can just play hit songs.

follow this link to hear what proper mixing sounds like.
mixing tricks is something i have strong knowledge in
not a single mix is less than 1:30 long

Last edited by David Jeffreys on Jun-23-2007 at 00:50

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Andryuha
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jeffreys
not using the eq's is one of the stupidest things i have ever heard.
its called mixing! any blow hole can play one song after another
and not mess with the eq's.we call them radio and wedding dj's.
it takes skill to transform from one song to the next wothout anyone knowing at all. and it takes knowing how to use the eq's properly to do this.

as far as dj's tweaking with the eq's while one track is playing.
its fine. its just knowing when to do it. but dont over do it!
a little is a lot in the case!

dj's do this for a few reasons.

#1 its helps creat a live feeling and sound for the crowd

#2 gives them something to do.

#3 if the dj does it right it really gets the crowd moving.

nothing is more boring then watching a dj stand around with his dick in his hand drinking a beer while everyone else around them is rocking out. where is the connection to the people. loose your self
in the music with everyone else and get down and play with the song.

a dj's abilty tweak eq's and to mix from one song to another properly and gracefully is what seperates us from each other. mixing style is just as important as the tracks. because anyone can just play hit songs.

follow this link to hear what proper mixing sounds like.
mixing tricks is something i have strong knowledge in
not a single mix is less than 1:30 long

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What's with that tone? The OP is clearly a newbie and we're just trying to give him some pointers. And since when did you become an authority on proper mixing? It doesn't really matter how long your transitions are. This already shows me that you have very limited knowledge about mixing.

PS. Promote your stuff in "promotions" section and include a track list if you actually want people to listen.

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nefardec
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david jefferys -

there is a difference between proper eqing and having nervous energy and pretending to do more than one is really doing for the sake of showmanship, is all I am saying. it really doesn't take that much tweaking to get tracks to mix well, just the right timing. plus, it's not like you have a pinpoint accurate eq system on a dj mixer, so you're going to affect more than you need to

with that said, let it be known I use my eqs more than the next guy

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