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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
Re: Re: Re: Re: I love libruls

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Originally posted by venomX
Having to consider both sides of an argument is not incompatible with the free market you like so much.


of course it is if you are mandated to consider it.

thats not even the issue here. it's about a balance of programing and whether or not that can or should be mandated.

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Responsible commentary demands the considering of opposing views.


sure, but why does it have to be though?

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You have to remember information has consequences.


that's immaterial to this argument.

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Considering these people are distributing information that is critical in decision making they should consider both sides of an argument.


most do.
if you are willing to force them to do so however, how does that not make you quasi-fascist?


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The 'fairness doctrine' is nothing more than responsible journalism.


the other side of that argument is it's veiled fascism. i think in the spirit of responsible commentary we should consider both sides of the argument in order to distribute the information that is critical for others in their decision making because remember, information has consequences.

if we don't see eye to eye on that well, thats ok too. i'm not the boss of you.

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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
right-wing radio (at least here in australia) is more popular simply because it is over-simplified and geared towards the lowest common denominator. progressive (or "liberal" if you wanna mis-use that term yet again you americans, sheesh) programs are meatier and harder to grasp for the general populace.


I certainly wouldn't call the left any more intelligent than the 'lowest common denominator' on the right here lol!


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DJ Shibby
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Registered: Jul 2004
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I don't watch or listen to any of these shows, because that would be fueling the advertisement industry that keeps them in business.

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Marc Summers
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: New York, USA

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
I don't watch or listen to any of these shows, because that would be fueling the advertisement industry that keeps them in business.


So you'd rather listen to radio you pay for?


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Armin Acolyte



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quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
So you'd rather listen to radio you pay for?


Do you really need to with Podcasting these days?


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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

oh this is just f**king great.

listen to Senator Inhofe >here<

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BREITBART.TV EXCLUSIVE: Appearing on John Ziegler's evening show on KFI 640 AM in LA, U.S. Senator James Inhofe says he overheard Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) and Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) saying they want a "legislative fix" for talk radio.


I WEEP FOR THE FREE MARKET IF THAT C**T GETS ELECTED TO THE HIGHEST OFFICE.

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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
oh this is just f**king great.

listen to Senator Inhofe >here<



I WEEP FOR THE FREE MARKET IF THAT C**T GETS ELECTED TO THE HIGHEST OFFICE.


Oh FFS, he said what?:

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REITBART.TV EXCLUSIVE: U.S. Senator James Inhofe says he overheard Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) and Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) saying they want a "legislative fix" for talk radio.


Ahh, and I heard our dear Senator Inhofe has a penis growing out of his elbow, which is why he wears tighter shirts underneath his suit.

Need I say anything more about how much I love the Conservative talk show hearsay and innuendo? Jesus I'm wouldn't be surprised if the Conservative talk show listeners believe Hillary was derived from a popped zit off an alien and is here to suck the blood out of all your babies. How many more times has Hannity come on to discuss Hillary with yet another bashing book from the Righties?

Anyway, I'll get to your comments tomorrow Shakka. Hope everyone had a terrific Summer Solstace!!!


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Registered: May 2001
Location: Prague, Czech Republic

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– In the spring of 2007, of the 257 news/talk stations owned by the top five commercial station owners, 91 percent of the total weekday talk radio programming was conservative, and only 9 percent was progressive.


And you just know that 91% of weekday talk radio programming spends most of its time whinging about the liberal bias in the media. That's where a well-honed persecution complex and a tenuous grasp on reality will get you, I suppose.


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Q5echo
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Location: Dallas

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Need I say anything more about how much I love the Conservative talk show hearsay and innuendo?


yes. you need to say that the Senator was lying, not just implicit. b/c he realy couldn't have been more explicit in what he said.

this thread or subject as a whole, really, isn't about the content of Conservative talk radio. it stands up to scrutiny all the time (i would expect it to be) it's about threats against it's freedom to express the content.

i believe it puts the implied liberal foundations under scrutiny.

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Q5echo
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quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
That's where a well-honed persecution complex and a tenuous grasp on reality will get you, I suppose.


thats funny. i could apply a similar analysis to probably 90% of liberals who don't believe in an overwhelming, worldwide left-wing bias in MSM.


am i paranoid or are you?

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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
yes. you need to say that the Senator was lying, not just implicit. b/c he realy couldn't have been more explicit in what he said.


While at the same time, you and especially Inhofe need to say that the little growth on his elbow is not a new penis which is why he's wearing tighter shirts in order to conceal his abnormality.

See, these rumor games are fun. They can go on and on and on and on.....

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this thread or subject as a whole, really, isn't about the content of Conservative talk radio. it stands up to scrutiny all the time


The content stands up to scrutiny? Surely you jest?:

www.mediamatters.com

If there's content that your former GOP Clinton-hating bitch David Brock is incorrect about when he posts criticisms of various media figures (including Conservative media heads), by all means discuss them.

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(i would expect it to be) it's about threats against it's freedom to express the content.


Which really is an interesting argument considering that is exactly what the report in Think Progress is arguing - by a meltdown and consolidation of radio media to a select few corporate heads, all of the sudden the number of voices in talk radio is reduced down to a select few. This is exactly what occurred to a local radio station here in Lawrence, Kansas. It was a local AM talk show and sports radio station that broadcasted primarily local news, but got bought out by a bigger corp. I know, shit happens, and they promised to keep things local.

But then a funny thing happened - Bill O'Reilly started perpetrating in with his show, 2 hours of it. Then one day, we all got to hear Neil Boorz on before O'Reilly. Some of us wondered what was up. Some of us complained (actually, given that the voting block in our town is majority liberal and progressive, many complained). Those complaints eventually led to a listening of Ed Shultz - 2 hours of it after O'Reilly. Ratings went up, a balance was created, and everyone was full of glee.

Then Schultz got reduced down to one hour for no reason, even when the ratings were up. Next thing you knew, Shultz was reduced down to nonexistence, and then quietly replaced by a no-name local Conservative guy. Hey, he was "local" goes the argument, but now from pretty much all day until 4:00 you have nothing but Conservative radio. It defied the ratings, and it defied "balance", but the company controlled the reins and they got to choose.

And that is exactly what occurs elsewhere. The smaller outlets are gobbled up and taken over by companies that can control all messages they choose going out over the airwaves.

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i believe it puts the implied liberal foundations under scrutiny.


Uhh, yeah. Whatever you say there bub. So if I'm to understand you right, you don't want to discuss the content that these Conservative blowhards discuss because that's not what this thread is about, but instead you want to discuss opening up the airwaves and actually ALLOWING MORE FREE SPEECH across the board (conservative and liberal alike) with stricter regulation that gives a more even playing field for smaller businesses is somehow putting the implied liberal foundations under scrutiny?

Alright, I'll roll with that one - so allowing smaller businesses to compete with more equal footing with larger businesses is a bad thing? Hmmm, what a bummer indeed......


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MisterOpus1
Grumpy Old Fart



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
thats funny. i could apply a similar analysis to probably 90% of liberals who don't believe in an overwhelming, worldwide left-wing bias in MSM.


am i paranoid or are you?


You're quite paranoid and highly delusional to believe so.

I absolutely love those claims of librul media bias. Granted, it slaps the face of reality, especially when discussing how we got into this gawd aweful mess of a war among other things, but it's entertaining nonetheless.


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