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Stu Cox
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Southampton, UK

"Why make a track difficult to mix?"

I doubt that was the aim - it's just a by-product of wanting it to sound good if it's just played on its own, you have to be a bit more creative with the intro which then means DJs who don't know how to deal with anything other than a standard 32 bar kick & bass intro get confused.

Surely it's your job to work around the way the producer makes the track rather than the other way round?

Loads of tracks have irregular lengthed intros - just learn to work out where to position it so that it works. I remember when I used to drop Dave McCullen - 'Bitch' at the commercial house nights at our uni I'd skip forward to the point where the bassline drops in, whack the CDJ into reverse and play it backwards for 16 bars of the other tune cos that was the only way I could work out where to start it to make it drop in time lol

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RJT
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location:

Re: Why Make A Track Difficult to Mix??

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
Whay make a track difficult to mix?

To make me a better DJ.

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Jun-28-2007 21:01

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miamitranceman
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Miami

I wouldn't call "Fairlight" a very difficult track to mix into, out of IMO.

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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
"Why make a track difficult to mix?"

Surely it's your job to work around the way the producer makes the track rather than the other way round?

Amen.

This is also where harmonic mixing can help a lot because it allows you to overlay stuff differently.
Unless something has irregular BPMs you can pretty much mix anything. Just have to know how to.

People these days are also so hell bent on mix intro/outro whilst there are so many other ways to do it.

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
yes but u still want to make a track that the big djs will want to play to give u exposure

How do you know what the producer wants to achieve with the track?

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FreqNasty2
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Registered: Jun 2007
Location: France

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Because all tracks aren't supposed to be mixed.

no anything with a sine wave can be mixed with perfection

Jun-29-2007 03:11 Aruba

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Project-K
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Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Laval, Quebec

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Originally posted by nefardec
and listen to old school dj mixes and you'll see it's hardly necessary to have perfectly matching track segments for cookie cutter transitions

I find that for that reason, old mixes are far more interresting. It's not always a smooth transition between one 'unn-tss-unn-tss-unn-tss' to another 'unn-tss-unn-tss-unn-tss', sometimes you have quick fades, tempo changes, beatless transitions, beatless outtros being layered over riffs from an incoming song, etc.

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Jun-29-2007 05:33 Canada

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Domesticated
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Registered: Feb 2007
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Speaking of, what are the tracks you guys find hard to mix?

I have always found Rex The Dog's tracks to be a bitch, as well as Rui da Silva - Lixuneanos.

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CashMoneyHoes
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Registered: Jun 2007
Location: Utah

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
Speaking of, what are the tracks you guys find hard to mix?

I have always found Rex The Dog's tracks to be a bitch, as well as Rui da Silva - Lixuneanos.

depends what your using, there could be many factors involved when you mix for months and can't get it flawless like in the old days

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
Speaking of, what are the tracks you guys find hard to mix?

No tracks as such, but I have a couple of bad vinyl pressings where the beats drift and they just won't stay aligned no matter what I do.

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bamski
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Registered: Mar 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
No tracks as such, but I have a couple of bad vinyl pressings where the beats drift and they just won't stay aligned no matter what I do.

+1

I have a release of Hawtin's Minus Orange and the A2 version instafucks at about a minute, the 12" doesn't have the slightest flaw on it so i thought back in the day that it was made intentionally

Still haven't mixed it right