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Originally posted by Benjamin_D throw the computer in the trash if your using it for djing. Yes deciding what beat is in front of each other is one of the hardest things to do so hear is a little tip. You can never beat match 2 songs perfectly, so what you do is when you beat matching is just listen and see witch one is playing slower, then get it as close as you can but still keeping it slower. this way when they start to get off you already know witch one you need to speed up. If you start on actuall turn tables dont even worry about the beat matching the first 2 hours. Just learn to drop the track and how to speed it up and slow it down using your fingers LIGHTLY. you have to be able to drop the track on 1 so practice that sweetie

i'm not using the computer for just djing. I am using it to learn a little bit on because I'm waaay too broke for my own cdj's right now. So this will have to do for now, ya know? The software looks just like a couple of cdj's and a mixer. I like it so far.

You are confusing me with this whole speed business. I adjust the bpm's to where both tracks match on the speed. So I would think there shouldn't be one song slower than the other. And here I thought I had the whole concept down - and now I'm confused again *thud*

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Originally posted by sharper i'm not using the computer for just djing. I am using it to learn a little bit on because I'm waaay too broke for my own cdj's right now. So this will have to do for now, ya know? The software looks just like a couple of cdj's and a mixer. I like it so far. You are confusing me with this whole speed business. I adjust the bpm's to where both tracks match on the speed. So I would think there shouldn't be one song slower than the other. And here I thought I had the whole concept down - and now I'm confused again *thud*

You have the right idea. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

You shouldn't have to 'get it close' and make adjustments when you start transitioning the track. Tracks can normally be played 1-3 bpm's slower or faster than their normal rate without losing the original pitch (at least to a point where it's too obvious). You may have a track in mind that plays normally at 129 that you want to mix with a track currently playing at 133. First try to speed up the track that's playing at 129 to the current bpm rate of the track playing and see how it sounds. If it sounds like it ascended in pitch to much, slow it down and slow down the track currently playing one or two bpm's and only raise the bpm's of the track coming in. Generally, you can't really tell when a track has been slowed down by one (or two) bpm while being played. By doing this you keep the pitch integrity and are able to beat and key match more harmonically without losing anything. Que points are imortant too. But that is something you will just have to figure out as you gain more confidence and skill. I have heard way too many dj's start a track at a wrong point and the transition sounds like s**t, even though they had the bpm's matched and were able to key match too.

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Originally posted by Benjamin_D Go back to your hole and DIE DIE DIE

I didn't realize we're still calling your mom 'the hole'.

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Que points are imortant too. But that is something you will just have to figure out as you gain more confidence and skill. I have heard way too many dj's start a track at a wrong point and the transition sounds like s**t, even though they had the bpm's matched and were able to key match too.

I concur. It helped me to count the bars. You'll noticed a layer or sound is added/removed usually every 16 bars. Learn the intro and outro of all your tracks. This will help you find the queue points. I also learned a lot by queing the intro track at different points until it felt right.

As for beatmatching, it helped me to visualize the two beats. I could see in my mind's eye where and how far/close the two beats are and adjusted.

Also, a transition should feel right and make sense.

My .02

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Originally posted by Ph03n1x I concur. It helped me to count the bars. You'll noticed a layer or sound is added/removed usually every 16 bars. Learn the intro and outro of all your tracks. This will help you find the queue points. I also learned a lot by queing the intro track at different points until it felt right.

I would have said that, but I didn't think she would know what I was talking about if I said to pay attention to the measures. That's important, especially with progressive music structures

Steve if you took the bpm counters away, You would die.


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Originally posted by sharper ...you tx dj boys better back up. This chicka is tackling beat matching and learning a ton about mixing. Won't be long before i'll be part of a future kitchen session. Pllthhh!!!! damn this is addicting, the past 2 weekends I have stayed up all night and the sun came up before I would put it down. Thanks to the boys who've taught me alot already.

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Originally posted by Benjamin_D Steve if you took the bpm counters away, You would die. Now go hold a 1 iron in the air in the middle of a lighting storm.

O rly??? Hmmm....now who threw it down on your malfunctioning cdj's with defective counters?

That's right, daddy did.

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Originally posted by djjonas O rly??? Hmmm....now who threw it down on your malfunctioning cdj's with defective counters? That's right, daddy did.

LMAO!!!

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Even if you use a beat counter to match the two songs they can still be off by +/- .8% but the good thing is you know if you're using a beatcounter and you match the tempos that you're automatically within +/- .8% so you don't have very far to go to get your songs matched up.

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Originally posted by djjonas O rly??? Hmmm....now who threw it down on your malfunctioning cdj's with defective counters? That's right, daddy did.

Dude you cried for 3 weeks over it. yep cried like a baby

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