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Originally posted by Rusty O'Hara What about doing your main love for fun. And doing side projects to pay the bills? Professional? Sellout? Or Realist?

Ehh, whatever works for you, I guess. People who do that lose a lot of credibility in my eyes but that hardly matters to anyone... At the end of the day all that matters is that you're doing what you love.

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Don't get me wrong. but isn't bein a professional about earning money with what you do? Of course you do it because you love it, that's always the primary thing (for me personally at least). I'm not saying a professional is only in it for the money, but a true professional in my eyes is capable of doing far more than just the music he likes himself.

A true professional is able to disregard it's own taste and make a product that's up to par anyway. Think about web designers, they don't always make a website they like, but what the client wants. Just as an audio engineer is supposed to record and mix a track as prefered by the one whose paying him.

I just made some crappy ass music in (literally) 10 min last week and know it will be on a nation wide tv-commercial for a dance event. Sometimes you work specific goals to reach a certain crowd. It could be because someone asked you to, or because you want to for certain reasons.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery A true professional doesn't produce for money. A sellout does.

I never said that. But I did say a truely talented producer is capable of doing exactly the thing he (or the one hiring him) aimed for.
Think soundtracks, tv-commercial background music, product presentations, game music. A lot of these things are actually produced to reach certain goals, moods, vibes. It's really hard to master that skill, and anything but being a sellout.

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Last edited by Storyteller on Jul-03-2007 at 10:31

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Originally posted by Storyteller Don't get me wrong. but isn't bein a professional about earning money with what you do? Of course you do it because you love it, that's always the primary thing (for me personally at least). I'm not saying a professional is only in it for the money, but a true professional in my eyes is capable of doing far more than just the music he likes himself.

Of course, as I elaborated with my edit.

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A true professional is able to disregard it's own taste and make a product that's up to par anyway. Think about web designers, they don't always make a website they like, but what the client wants. Just as an audio engineer is supposed to record and mix a track as prefered by the one whose paying him. I just made some crappy ass music in (literally) 10 min last week and know it will be on a nation wide tv-commercial for a dance event. Sometimes you work specific goals to reach a certain crowd. It could be because someone asked you to, or because you want to for certain reasons.

Yes, but that's hardly artistic, is it? That's more or less being a musician-for-hire and doesn't really have much to do with achieving your goals (I mean really, who's goal is to become a writer of jingles? ). If stuff like that helps you pay for what you really want to do, go for it.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Of course, as I elaborated with my edit. Yes, but that's hardly artistic, is it?

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Music is always a creative process, no matter if you do what you like or dislike. Doing things you don't regularly do actually does broaden your view and knowledge about music in general. Take Boom Jinx for example and dare to call him not creative . He's originally from the sound design/commercial music industry.

All I'm saying is, for me a true professional is able to earn a living with his music primarily. It doesn't matter to me how he does it (project based/own music/studio recording engineering etcetera), as long as he's having fun in what he's doing. I personally prefer doing different things every once in a while. It's way more of a challenge (and harder) than just making music I like myself.

And to answer the topic question. I don't make music aimed for a specific label, but I do make music with a set of goals which are important to me at the given time. Setting goals and deadlines often stimulates my creative process.

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Last edited by Storyteller on Jul-03-2007 at 11:04

Well, whatever works for you. I can't agree or even understand your logic but if it makes you happy...

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I used to aim for labels, but I've since gotten over that idea. Now I just make music for fun.

If a label happens to like what I do. What the hell, a bit of pocket money!

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i think producers should get the balance right. its all very well making music for yourself, but to see people spending money on your music makes it that much more worth while. i mean it shows that it aint just someone who sees 'free 320k' and then mindlessly downloads it.

i produce for myself. and release my music via my own label. if something doesnt fit the style of my own label then i send out to a few labels i deem suitable. if it aint a track good enough for the labels i respect then i dont bother.

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